Metrical modulation (tempo equivalence) using tuplet

Good morning,

I need the following metrical modulation:

Eighth note triplet = sixteenth note. How do I write this in the Tempo pop-up window? (I could write a dotted sixteenth note, which is mathematically identical, but not clear to musicians). In a 2020 forum, this was not possible. Is it possible now? (fairly standard metric modulation). Thank you.

From the manual:

The question gets asked every few weeks or so, for now the workaround is still to use system text with a font like MusGlyphs. For playback to come out correctly you might need to add a hidden metronome marking. This is one of the topics with some further explanation:

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Thank you for your answer. This correction would be great. I will then use the font metrico to write it.

(and please include in future corrections, if you can:

  • text for family or group of instruments and not only for instrument or for the entire score
  • possibility to graphically design special clefs (for example, for me, treble clefs and bass clefs with a quarter tone below) without limitation and without tricks
  • the notation of natural harmonics for strings is not correct, in my opinion)

I’ve been using Dorico only since November, after 25 years of using Finale. It’s a very good software, thank you (I will encourage my composition students to use it)!

Fabien

Dorico Pro 6 has the means to fine tune System Text to appear above designated instrument groups.

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Dear Derrek,

Thank you for your reply, and sorry for starting a new discussion with another thread in this one.

I am not looking to write my system-attached text on my main score above specific families (for example, having instructions in the score above the strings), but rather I need instructions in the main score that appear only in specific parts, not all, for specific families like only for wind or string parts. I think this is different and not possible with Dorico (unlike Finale). Or is there a way?

Fabien

There is, but it doesn’t work like Finale’s score lists in the Category designer, unfortunately. First you enter the text in the score as system text (Alt+Shift+X). In the parts where you want the text to be hidden, you select the item in Engrave mode, open the Properties panel and with the scope set to Local, hide the text item. This means that if you only want the text shown in a few parts, you’ll be doing a lot of local hiding. The other way around (hiding system text globally in the full score and then showing it again locally where you want them to be shown) doesn’t work for some reason, because unhiding an item locally that you’ve hidden globally will cause it to be shown everywhere.

Others might have better methods.

If the only want the text in a small number of layouts, it might be better to create this as staff text instead of system text. You’ll need to add it separately on each staff where you want it, but then you only need to hide each instance once, in the score, instead of hiding system text in all of the layouts where you don’t want it.

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And by highlighting the text and using ALT/OPT + Click one can quickly reproduce the text (one at a time) on multiple staves.

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Many thanks Derrek and Aaron for your ansswers. I will use both options depending on whether many instruments are involved or not (I hadn’t understood the local/global properties, which helps a lot).

One last question (without wanting to take up your time): I notice that some separate parts are awful, even though Dorico organizes the scores automatically: staves on top of each other, conflicting symbols, text that is too large. However, I haven’t changed any of the options. Is there a way to tell it to rearrange as much as possible automatically without affecting the other scores and the conductor, before I do it manually?

Thanks

Fabien

Yes, certainly. Show a screenshot, or even better, post a Dorico file with the problem, and you will get specific help.

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Thanks. For instance tjis.

It looks like something here is putting too many systems into the frame. What does the frame fullness indicator in the lower left corner of the page say?

If you haven’t manually added frame breaks or adjusted staff spacing, and if you don’t have casting off set to a particular number of systems per page then this may just be an instance of the circular trap that Dorico sometimes falls into.

If this is the case, then adding a manual frame break, probably on the last system, should free up space on the page to help resolve conflicts.

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