MIDI plugin vst for midi send and transformer function

Developer VST 3 SDK
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Hi all guys , cubase lack of MIDI function on the instrument track , i need a midi send function with the possibility to use transformer for change my message too. Is it possibile to develop a vst3 that can solve that problem ? or we don’t have the possibility to handling and manage MIDI message on a vst3 plugin ?

Thanks for your help

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MIDI is not part of VST3. For further information read Log In - Steinberg Developer Help

Cheers,
Arne

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Hi Arne , thanks for your complete answer ! I’m trying to recreate the midi send function , so is it possible in vst 2 to recreate that ? Thanks

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Hi Andrea,
if I correctly understood your issue, that you want to implement the “MIDI send” feature of the MIDI tracks in Cubase for instrument tracks, then I think this is impossible, as only the instrument in Cubase gets the note-on, note-off events and not a plug-in placed behind it. So you can only make a feature request @ steinberg so that they implement this feature. VST2 won’t help you either.

Cheers,
Arne

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Thanks Arne for your support, yes that was my intent . I hope they will add it to instrument track

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you can work around Cubase limitations a bit. You can create a chain of tracks… Host an instrument plugin version of a midi VST plugin… then create a secondary track which takes its input from the output of that plugin. You have to enable the monitoring icon of the second track so that you can select the first track that is feeding your VST midi plugin to take input from your midi keyboard.

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you can also use third party subhoster like KushView Element in the instrument slot of a cubase track, then use all the VST midi plugins you want inside that.

VST3 and VST2 can both handle midi plugin tasks, despite Steinberg not wanting to officially support it. VST2 has more flexibility for a few specific issues which can’t be done properly in VST3, but many common midi tasks can be done with VST3 plugins also.

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Hi. thanks for the Tipps!
That works, but only with Latency artefacts. (my Experience)

The reasen :wink: why i landed here is because i tryed to do that with Reasen ;). ioi
But the Problem is:
original Message to Propellerhaed Support
"When i use Reasen as VST in Cubase and i send Midi notes via a Midi Channel in Cubase, and i send it back via a “Midi Output” Rack-Module to a Midi-Channel in Cubese (Loopback) which is routed to eg Omnisphere the Timing is not correct, to late and the Notes are shorter then the Events on the Midi-Channel in Cubase.
When i record the Midi Notes from Reasen “Midi Output” in cubase, they appear on the correct Position. "
It seems that the Latency-Compemsation dosnt implemented for internal Midi Data Transfer, or what ever…
Cubase seems more developed for Staff and Midi-Events “Player”. Not realy for creative Stuff. Since 30 Years i try and try, but all my tasks gone cause Cubase dosnt “implemented” it. All in 1 DAW is maybe a Dream i will never experience…?

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Now it works like a Charm:))

…and, Cubase is so academicaly.

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I’m not sure if this helps in anyway but I recently tried something I’ve been meaning to do and it works pretty well,
I went into the midi studio (Mac) and selected the internal IAC driver and created heaps of ports with generic names like port ., 1,2 etc

Then in cubase, I was able to send an instrument p tracks midi output to another instrument track using the. ’ corresponding input port…
now thats not quite a send with fx like we all wish was there but keeping in mind a midi track can then pull this info in. Since doing this I now often have a midi : track underneath the instrument acting as a kind of patch bay to other tracks

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