Midi Through toggles itself

Dorico
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This is starting to look like a bug on Dorico Pro 6 - Once in a while during work, I’m starting to hear the Dorico sounds while playing my keyboard. I have MIDI through is set to off - but I now need to turn it on and off again in order to have Dorico stop playing back software sounds.

Any advice?

Thanks!

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I don’t know, but is there maybe a keyboard shortcut assigned to that switch and you unintentionally trigger it?

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Thanks, but there shouldn’t be such a shortcut, and if there was one, I assume the “MIDI through” box would be checked when MIDI through is turned on by it? Even when I hear the MIDI play, the box is still unchecked- I need to check it, apply, and then uncheck and apply again for the MIDI to stop playing.

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I don’t know if there should or not be a key command for it, fact is, as I just found out, yes, it is possible to have a shortcut for Toggle MIDI Thru. By default it is not assigned but you can do if you like.
And if you don’t have an assignment for it, I have no clue of how that toggling can happen otherwise with you.

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I did assign a key command to it - but for some reason it doesn’t do anything. (All my other programmed shortcuts work fine).

So, to recap… I have a shortcut that doesn’t do anything for MIDI through toggle - the jump bar command for it also doesn’t change anything. And on the other hand, MIDI through toggles itself randomly - but the box for MIDI through always stays unchecked even when it’s on - so I need to turn it on (even though it IS on), and off again if I don’t want to hear the MIDI through, until the next time it turns on randomly. (and I should add that my keyboard shortcut has 4 modifiers, it’s not one that I could hot by mistake).

Any advice?

Thanks

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I suspect your shortcut does in fact do something. Doesn’t that seem like the most likely explanation?

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Not really… when I try to use the shortcut I don’t see any change in the checkbox of the MIDI through, nor is there any change in what I hear when I play my MIDI keyboard - that’s why I stopped trying to use it after a few attempts. The random toggling of MIDI through happens on completely different occasions and I’m definitely not hitting shift-control-option-command-M by mistake without noticing…

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Next time you encounter this, immediately do Help > Create Diagnostic Report and attach the resulting zip file here. It should provide a clue.

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Hi,

Is there any specific file from the Diagnostics I should send? The whole folder is too large for the system here.

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We need the Dorico and AudioEngine subfolders the most. So if you unpack the original zip and then create a Dorico.zip and AudioEngine.zip then it should be small enough to be posted here.

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Here are the folders -

When this report was created MIDI through was supposedly off (“Preferences->play->Enable MIDI Thru” was un-checked), but was actually on (playing my MIDI keyboard produced sound from Dorico). I didn’t do anything to change the MIDI thru setting for a while before - it just came on on its own.

Thanks!

AudioEngine.zip (2.9 MB)
Dorico.zip (3.1 MB)

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Thanks. I will take a look later. A little patience please

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Thanks a lot!

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On a Sunday in August???

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I don’t know what time it is anymore. We have 14 degree Celcius and constantly rain pouring down on us. Is this what we call summer time? :wink:

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Hi @roeeli ,
in your Dorico.zip is a file called keycommands_en.json. If you open that in a text editor and go to line 135 you will see:

    "NoteInput.ToggleMIDIThru" : [ "Meta+Ctrl+Alt+Shift+M" ]

So I guess that by accident you sometimes hit that special key combination and therefore toggle that value.

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Thanks - this sounds convincing, but there a couple of problems with this theory:

1 - That’s not a key combination one might hit by mistake, certainly not as many times as this problem occurred on my machine.

2 - When I do hit this combination on purpose, it does absolutely nothing.

3 - The “Toggle MIDI thru” checkbox is still un-checked, even when MIDI thru is obviously on. I need to check it, apply, uncheck it and apply again for MIDI thru to stop working.

I deleted the key command combination, as it doesn’t work anyway (which is weird by itself) - I’ll upload the new diagnostics files when the problems re-occurs.

Thanks for your help (on a Sunday!!)

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Well, on my computer there was no shortcut assigned to that toggle function, so I did assign one and it works as expected.
Anyway, get back when you run into trouble again.

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Just happened again, but both folders (audio engine and Dorico) are over 4MB this time, so I can’t send them here. Where can I send it to? or do you need specific files from within these folders?

I did notice this happened after I switched to FInale and Logic and back to Dorico, might this have something to do with the MIDI thru switching itself on?

Thanks!

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Hi @roeeli, you can send me attachments up to 10MB to u dot stoermer at steinberg dot de

For anything bigger please use file sharing services like e.g. DropBox, WeTransfer, etc.

And I don’t see how Logic or Finale could change the MIDI Thru value in Dorico, so it stays a bit mysterious, but please send the files and we’ll see