Minimise audio causes clip volume data to become corrupted

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Issue:
Using Minimise Audio feature causes all clip volume data to become totally corrupted, destroying hours of work.

How to replicate:

  1. Edit the clip volume of many audio clips that share the same audio (i.e. a vocal track with gaps deleted)
  2. Use the minimise audio feature
  3. Clip volume data will become corrupted and now no longer represent the volume envelopes you had previously edited.

I believe it may be due to the fact the relative positions of nodes (for clip volume) are shifted when the audio is minimised. For instance, if 567 samples of audio are removed by the minimise audio feature, clip volume nodes may be shifted by -567 samples to the left. Just a running theory.

Cubase 14.0.10 // Windows 11 Pro 24H2

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Oh yes, very reproducable by me. On Win10.

Nice theory but my small tests don’t support it. That’s just on a side-note, though. I assume the good folks at Steinberg can find out what’s going on much better than us.

I also can’t think of a workaround. So I guess for now it is best for you to not use “Minimize File”.
That also includes the Minimze Files option when using File → Backup Project

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Thanks for confirmation.

Yeah, I think my workaround will be to bounce the audio after editing the clip gains then redo Detect Silence and minimise to clean things up. Saves headaches! Had to redo all the audio in a current project.

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I think your find is actually a pretty big deal and I will try to raise attention for Steinberg to notice it.
The next maintenance release is presumably coming next week (on the Nuendo forum the N14 release was anounced for next week, and the Cubase maintenance release might happen at the same time or a week later), so I guess that version is too ready to incorporate such a fix. So hopefully the one afterwards.

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Hi, thank you very much for reporting and sorry for the inconvenience caused by this. I’m currently working on a fix, but as Johnny assumed, it’s too late for the upcoming maintenance release. It’ll be included in the next one which will not too far in the future.
Cheers
Dirk

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Hi Dirk,

Thanks so much. No worries at all about the inconvenience. It happens! I really appreciate your work fixing it and maintaining the software.

Regards, Jim.

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