Hello Steiny crew!
I think (and not only me) that the Score Editor needs to be functionally and visually improved and modernized. You have enough good examples for that.
Maybe it won’t be that hard to make it to look similar to the Logic Pro X Score Editor. This is good example for well organized editor for faster workflow.
I have another topic about some improvements wish: https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=252&t=125997
Hello Steiny crew!
What functions does Logic have that you’d like to see in Cubase?
steve, I gave Logic Score Editor mostly as well designed and organized GUI, the notes also look pretty nice. I’m not familiar with Logic and don’t have much experience. Graphically Cubase’s Score Editor looks stone age and so primitive. I know that in Logic you can put the notes on the stave more precisely, it has greyed lines to show the place for the note below and above the stave, which doesn’t exit in Cubase. In Cubase isn’t very put notes easily by using mouse, like in normal scoring software…
We are living in 21st century, almost 2018 year… Why the Score Editor has to look like we are still using Windows 3.11.
About functionality… Overture 5.5 by Sonic Scores, could be taken as great example for good ideas to be integrated in the score editor. I have another topic about these things.:https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=252&t=125997 but you already did post there.
I certainly am not trying to debate.
So, the request is fo more modern cosmetics, and ledger lines when dragging notes vertically with the mouse. (note that ledger lines do appear when using keystrokes to transpose, and when entering notes using the Insert Note tool).
I’m interested in a use-case scenario for being able to separate the notation display form the midi data, as Overture does.
Yep, the Score Editor has to look nice and to work good. The way how Overture separates the notation from midi mockup data is great!
Also the Expression map has to be improved. Again Overture is great example for this, how easily the expressions can be mapped to keyswitches and CC data… As I’ve seen in some videos Dorico aslo provides improved way to map expressions… In Cubase this takes much more wasted time.
I know that Steinberg has no interest to improve so much the Cubase Score Editor, since they have Dorico. Probably in the future they would do the same as Avid did when they bought Pro Tools and Sibelius, and Presonus with Studio One and Notion…
If Overture was enough stable to handle heavy orchestral templates, I would buy it and make it prior tool for composing and arranging and Cubase secondary, but it crashes very often and has many other problems that have to be solved. Dorico is the only similar to Overture app but missing real-time midi recording and CC data controls which stops me of buying it.
For us, the composers, arrangers and orchestrators is more important to stay more focused on the things that we have to do, and to spend as less as possible time of doing DAW related tech stuffs.
+1 on modernizing the expression maps which haven’t seen any evolution for a long time. (OT, but Generic Remote Controls too) Exp maps are arcane and counter-intuitive, though it does work, eventually. Overture does a very, very good job in that area, and requires little effort from the user, and as a bonus you can then save the track as a preset with everything you added. But then, there’s no graphical representation of it in the midi editor view, last I checked. I own a copy of it and have dug in quite a bit.
If SB gave us a function where we could freely take any graphic object and assign midi messages to the start and finish of it’s location and duration, and save presets of groups of those it would easily rival what Overture offers.
(Here’s the link to the other thread where we are talking about this, https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=683795#p683795 )
I totally agree!