Interesting that you put this question, as I was about to ask about the NanoKontrol2 and ease of connection with Cubase 10.5. I’m looking for a MIDI unit with a couple of manual faders for expression etc. (I don’t need a MIDI keyboard as I have one) and it appears that although the NanoKontrol2 would be an ideal MIDI controller, a lot of people appear to have real problems using it with Cubase.
Basically, the same question as yours. I’d also be interested if anyone can recommend a controller.
Sorry I jumped on your post, but no point in duplicating the same question.
I’ve been looking at various ones, Chris. NanoKontrol2 seems to be popular, and it’s not extortionately expensive. It may be what you need.
My only concern about it is that quite a number of Cubase users on a number of forums have difficulty making it connect to Cubase.
Maybe there’s something better, but my question is the same as yours.
Let’s hope we both find what we need. … with suggestions from others, I hope.
I am on a hunt for this too. I have seen a lot of composers using a BCF 2000. Its not made any more but available for £120 on ebay UK. I bought one, but so far I have not plugged it in. Since buying it, I found a thread (GOD knows where that is now!) that says it only works with MIDI tracks, not instrument tracks. This is worrying. I would say I would let you know but I could never find your thread again on this forum.
I have had a lot of trouble with controllers in general. Offerings from Akai , NI, Korg, Nektar have all been a pain to set up, the software is often dodgy and does not do what it says on the box, or the box does NOT say what it does not do. The Akai and the Nektar failed to work even after tech support. The whole area is a minefield - mostly because of the connection issues. A lot of stuff has poor build quality too, so beware of pretty pictures.
I suppose the current hot product for this is the Fader port range. If you are doing things like orchestral mock ups you will need a minimum of two faders - CC1, CC11 but four would be better. This means a fader port eight as they dont make a fader port 4.
I have not seen one in real life and I would recommend you do. If your local music store can see one. Whatever you do, buy from a store that gives ano quibble returns. Also when you narrow down your search, check to find other users of Cubase that use the same device for CC controlling. That’s important, it must work with Cubase (forget the hype on the box) and it must be able to control CC, not just thing like record enable, faders etc.
Take a look here: Digital village, nee Musicstore is a very good company. Support for me has been rock solid for 30 years.
My experience with controllers has been similar to yours.
That said, I have been happy with my Faderport. This is the first time I’ve wished that it would do something that it won’t.
I’ve been searching, but so far I’ve not found a controller with a motorized fader that is specifically designed with simple and direct MIDI CC control in mind. Seems like the manufacturers imagine that motorized faders are for mixing only.
Closest I’ve come is perhaps the Icon Nano, but the manual basically warns against trying MIDI Control … “It can be a big hassle unless you really know what you’re doing” or something close to that. Hmmmm…
Anyway, still hoping someone will point me in the right direction …
Don’t buy Faderport. In MIDI mode, it doesn’t update correctly the faders (which is the very point of buying motorized faders). I contacted Presonus support and I was told that “this is not a central feature of Faderport” so I shouldn’t expect this to be working. Don’t get me wrong, Faderport is great for Mackie control, but its MIDI mode support is equivalent to the cheap nanoKontrol (well actually worse, because nanoKontrol at least is able to sync the mute and solo toggles). It is such a shame that Presonus doesn’t even try to fix it. I think they are not aware of the huge potential of it.
Don’t buy Icon Nano. It doesn’t work correctly and the included software is buggy. I had to return it.
The only option that has worked for me is the Lemur app in an iPad together with the Midimux app to be able to connect it via USB. I’ve read that Lemur also runs in android tablets but I don’t have any experience with it. The tragic part of this story is that the only option that works is by a company that seems to be almost out of business (Liine’s website not working anymore).
I have been looking for a motorized fader for MIDI control for a long, loooooong time… The Motör keyboard appears to be a candidate, but I haven’t gone for it — I already have way too many keyboards and Behringer does not offer an 88-key version.
If Steinberg can come up with a nice, compact, motorized fader interface with full MIDI support, I’ll definitely be interested.
Seems like in absence of motorized faders for MIDI CC, the best process might be to handle large dynamic shifts – entrances, crescendos, etc – with MIDI CCs, and smaller ones – say, giving long-held notes some shape – with faders on the mixing console.
The disadvantage is that you lose the change in tone, but if it’s only a small dynamic shift that’s probably OK.
I have been sniffing around this one. I am not 100% certain but it looks promising. It has scribble strips too (little screens showing what each track is doing for each fader - I hope).
May well be my Christmas present.
I too am (continually) orienting myself to a DAW / MIDI CC controller for expressive composition …
How about Behringer X-touch? … For MIDI CCs maybe it can be used in combination with Track Quick Controls?
If anyone has it can you explain how it works? Thank you
I had one of those, and it was really great. I had it plugged in via midi ports, very flexible config, really sturdy. Kept its value too- I think I bought it for 100 USD and after a couple years, sold it for 100 USD.
It is a plain old generic midi controller, would work with anything that receives midi commands, including instrument tracks. (don’t believe anything you read on the internet.!)
I’ve found some time to report the bug in Faderport8 that makes it unusable to control parameters via MIDI using its motorized faders. I include a video with detailed steps to reproduce this problem here: https://answers.presonus.com/62143/bug-faderport8-not-updating-its-faders-correctly-midi-mode
If anybody else here owns a Faderport8, it would be useful to know if you are experiencing the same issue (maybe I have a faulty device?). If you do, please vote it! It really looks like something that could be fixed with a firmware update.
I like the idea of faders that react to incoming midi - but have a dislike for motorized faders, since they tend to jump visibly (and some of them audibly) . For some reason that always bugs me and so myBehringer BCF2000 sits mostly unused.
So I bought a used Maschine Jam with 8 touch strips and connected that to Cubase as a Generic Remote. That setup seems to work in principle, but I haven’t used it long enough yet, to see if that setup has any flaws that make it undesirable.
I also did some research finding a good working motorised MIDI cc fader-controller for Cubase. I tried Behringer x-touch, icon platform x+, and Softube console 1 Fader .
The only controller that worked perfect with MIDI CC information was the Softube console 1 fader. I connected the controller via Track quick controls (remember to enable R & T). When you disconnect the Softube Console 1 Fader from their own Software environment (Console 1 On-Screen Display) , the motorised faders then will send cc 100, cc102, cc104, cc106, cc108, c110, cc112, & cc114. Transmitting and receiving MIDI CC data works smooth!
However, there are two issues:
(1) You cannot use the Softube Console 1 fader plugin anymore. The whole strength of the product is gone;
(2) It is way too expensive for just a MIDI cc motorised controller.
BUT the most important message of post: IT IS POSSIBLE!