Hello,
Is it possible to shift the rhythmic position of an object in Dorico iPad without using the cmd-opt-arrow key commands, by touch or pencil only?
Thanks,
— Jason
Jason,
yes you can do this with your finger in Write Mode. A Dynamic will move horizontally to different rhythmical positions.
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Thank you, both. Should it work with a chord symbol? I cannot seem to make it so.
You can move a chord symbol with your finger by dragging the selected chord symbol, but the popover shown in Michele’s picture applies only to notes.
I must again be doing something wrong. If I drag a chord symbol with my finger, it will erase every chord symbol it passes over on its way to its destination. Say I have four bars with one chord symbol per bar, A D E A. If I try to drag the A in bar 1 to bar 5, the symbols in bars 2-4 will be erased, permanently. Undo does not retrieve them. It’s like a chord symbol eraser.
Looks if one has to avoid moving across another chord symbol.
In Dorico a chord symbol is more than a graphical item. It is in a logical way linked to the music in the staves on a specific rhythmical position. Moving over another (linked) chord symbol probably destroys them.
That seems like a bug. I’ve accidentally dragged chord symbols and wiped stuff out and not realized it until much later. Very inconvenient. No action should be taken until the drop, especially not multiple irreversible actions.
I will try to figure out where to file Dorico bug reports.
Under the hood a chord symbol represents a real chord which can be played back (on the desktop versions of Dorico). If I wipe a real chord across another chord, it probably overwrites them/cancels them out. In that way it is “correct” that the “wiped over” chord symbol vanishes. If Dorico under the hood would reserve a new individual voice for every single chord symbol, this could be probably avoided. Until then shifting of chord symbols further than the nearest other chord symbol should probably be deactivated.
I understand you find it unexpected and inconvenient, but that does not make it a bug. It is working as designed. Sibelius is like this too when dragging to attach to another beat, when there can be only one of that kind of item at a location. I have, over the past 23 years, occasionally wished Sibelius or Dorico would offer drag-&-drop capability like other software that highlights the destination but, as you say, takes no action until mouse-up. Not so far.
However, when we do find a bug, this is as good a place to report it as any.
I can’t imagine why the destructive chord symbol drag with no undo is the intended behavior. You can drag a note horizontally or vertically without disturbing its horizontal or vertical neighbors, and undoing a note drag puts everything back where it was.
Probably because Chord Symbols are system objects? Just speculating.
Jason, I also tried to replicate this issue on my iPad today. Yes, one can drag Chord Symbols quite effortlessly across to other rhythmical positions - and every Chord Symbol in the way between will vanish. And yes, if I click onto the undo arrow it won’t restore the previous state. I haven’t tried to press the undo arrow a couple of times, so I guess the Undo not working in this case is the real issue/glitch here. And it will bug people who end up in this situation.
What I did not manage was to drag the notes like you did in your video. Are you using the iPad with a mouse or touch pad attached? Also I don’t know, how to get these “shadow” notes…
That video was desktop Dorico, not iPad. I didn’t know how to capture a movie on the iPad and the chord symbol erasure behavior is the same on the both. I will try the note dragging on iPad when I get chance. ]
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