I’ve been trying to enter the following repeat marker(s) with custom text without much luck:
1st time: to Coda 1 (single coda symbol)
2nd time: to Coda 2 (double coda symbol)
As I understand it, word wrap is not available for repeat marker jumps, so you need to enter this as two separate repeat markers, however, it doesn’t seem possible to enter multiple repeat marker jumps on the same beat of a measure. Is this possible somehow, or do I have to resort to text and disregard correct playback at the moment?
The ability of the repeat popover to recognise modifiers such as 1st time and 2nd time, combined with word wrap for repeat marker jumps, would make these kinds of markers very easy to deal with, but multiple markers in the same place would go a long way.
You cannot create two repeat markers at the same rhythmic position, and I can’t think of any way in which you could therefore get accurate playback. You will indeed need to use Shift+Alt+X system text for this at present.
I find myself here in search of the same thing or something similar. Perhaps a consideration for the future.
I am working on a piece that has a D.S al D.S.S (double Segno) then at the end of the D.S.S., ‘To Coda’.
The piece pays through letter D, at the end Letter D you repeat back to Letter C and Play Letter C to the end of Letter D 2 times (D.S. back to C, play 2 times), D.S.S. to Letter A and play to the end of Letter B, then jump ‘To Coda’. Letter B has 1st and second ending and and Letter C has a repeat, so repeat bars don’t really help me here.
I understand this type of roadmap is highly unconventional, but a lot of jazz/jazz fusion charts use these types of markings.
I have been using a workaround for the inability to create multiple repeat markers at the same rhythmic position. I create the second, third and fourth repeat markers at different rhythmic positions nearby and then I drag them to the correct rhythmic position to thus achieve accurate playback. My application is for responsorial psalms, where there is one refrain at the start and multiple verses. The repeat structure is Refrain, Repeat refrain, Section A (verse 1), refrain, Section B (verse 2), refrain, Section 3 (verse 3), refrain. I use multiple D.C. and TO CODA jumps co-located at the same rhythmic position. I have successfully exported mp3 files with correct playback using this approach. This may be old news for some, but I thought it worthwhile posting as there is still interest in this thread. I can provide an example if that helps.
The accepted practice for Responsorial Psalm sheet music for the Catholic Church is to begin with the Response, which ends with a final double bar, then each verse ending with a D.C. The performance convention is the Response is always repeated at the start, then repeated after each verse.
The repeat Markers to achieve this playback are added as follows:
a “D.C.” at the end of the response.
a “D.C. al Coda” at the end of Verse 1, with custom text “D.C.” and Jump To Index of “1”
a “To Coda” with Marker Index “1” created a quaver after the end of the Response, Then Hidden (with Flag visible), then dragged to the correct rhythmic position.
a “Coda” with Marker Index of “1” created at the beginning of Verse 2, then Hidden.
a D.C. al Coda" at the end of Verse 2, with custom text “D.C.” and Jump To Index of “2”.
a “To Coda” with Marker Index of 2 created a quaver after the end of the Response, then Hidden, then dragged to the correct rhythmic position.
a “Coda” with Marker Index of “2” created at the beginning of Verse 3, then Hidden,
I’ve tried many times to get the exact sequence to work for me but no luck. Thank you for sharing the details. That helps greatly! I’ll try it on some of my psalms and hymns as well. Thanks Paul.
David
Is there a way to tell a D.S. al Coda to repeat twice before jumping to the Coda the way a repeat ending can be set to repeat multiple times? I sense there is not but would be happy to discover I am wrong. letMyPeopleGo221112blanked.dorico (647.9 KB)
Yes, I completely relate to the need for this sort of complex repeating structure, also working in the jazz domain. I was just in a conversation in the Dorico group on Facebook. In the process, I realized that to get multiple repeats of the form (simpler than your example), I could put in a DS, all to the same segno, for each repeat that I wanted. If repeat markers had the property Repeat X Times, like repeat bars, it would make those addition DS’s and serve at least one category of repeat control at a wider level than repeat bars. I read in an older forum post that you can’t put two repeat markers in the same location, but i found if they are created at different beat position, but moved to the same beat position in Write mode, they do coexist and function. Making them essentially hidden was also tricky, as the Hide property seemed to make them inaccessible, without leaving a signpost or the ability to be selected ether with a marquee or a selection filter. And they don’t respond to being colored. They can list as being whitened or set to 0% opacity in Properties, but the appearance remains unchanged.
