Multiple VST Connect connections from 1 facility with multiple workstations/studios/rooms to different performers possible?
This applies to a secured corporate studio facility network.
I did a test and had to enable port-forwarding in order for VST connect to create the connection. Video was transmitted without the forwarding, but the sync remained red without port-forwarding enabled.
I am not in the position to created the complete testscenario with multiple workstations (yet), nor would I want to try if it doesnât work. Better to inquire the info from the experts/developers.
I assume you are talking about multiple âstudioâ computers on the same LAN connecting to multiple REMOTE performers over the internet ?
This âshouldâ work fine BUT the issue could well be your âsecure corporate studio facility networkâ !
A âbasicâ firewall/router will just NAT the various addresses/ports involved and all âshouldâ be wellâŚbut thatâs not happening on your network. You enabled port forwarding and it worked (which ports assume those high numbered ones mentioned in the docsâŚor was it all âŚi.e. a DMZ ?). This means itâs very likely firewall/router is blocking some ports and thatâs gonna cause problems using multiple sessions.
I am in direct contact with the firewall admin, so we can make alterations, but these need to be simple rules which we can turn on/off between sessions.
I suspect the rule is âdo not block/filter 51111-51113â
Your situation is a bit more âedge caseâ than most so you are going to have to experiment a bit. Strictly speaking this isnât a VST connect issue but a firewall config issue.
Let us know if your test works - be interesting to see - and to see if we can up with solutions if it doesnât
FWIW suspect video uses more standard ports that your firewall/router doesnât care about which is why that part works.
The facilities has 10 cubase workstations all on the same LAN - all need to work with external performers over the internet. So itâs NOT multiple connections to ONE hostâŚitâs multiple connections to multiple hosts.
That wonât work unless you have 10 seperate internet connections, or make sure that only one station is connected at a time. It would probably get confused as it is to be expected that the network provides messages from all performers to all studios, if this is at all possible.
I understand why that âmightâ not work on the LAN because of the way it broadcasts locallyâŚbut why not over the internet to multiple clients ? You use some kind of gatekeeper (?) that provides ID - then this just NATs back to each computer ? Where would the âconfusionâ arise ?
Isnât that like saying âonly one person could use Zoomâ ?
I really think that the âsame portsâ is a red herringâŚyour issue is going to be the blocked ports of courseâŚbut on a more simple setup then I donât see why VST connect would behave differently from every other network application ?
I mean you donât have to limit your web surfing to one computer at once because it is using port 443/80 ? The router takes care of all that.
Hmm youâve got a point, but thatâs probably why the video side made a NAT connection (which actually shouldnât be allowed on the network, but was just a reckless try of mine, but thatâs another point), but the audio needs to run over 51111-51113?
Sure, itâs a snitch to set up some advanced server structure with ID processing, NAT resolvers, load balancers, relay servers, edge computersâŚ
I will ask the Zoom guys how much that will be
Seriously, it sure can be done, but we are not Zoom.
Nevertheless as said, we are working on a tech which would allow for multiple listeners, but not multiple connections to one IP.
Just tested this and it falls over - as musi says, the gatekeeper only allows one login per originating IP address. So anybody else logging in on the LAN (via same public IP) effectively logs out the existing user.
Hi,
Was just listening in on this conversation. I have VST Connect but hadnât ventured to use it yet, but interested.
As far as this multiple VST connection, does each connection have to have a specific IP address? If one logs the other out if joining in on the LAN with the same IP, what if the second joining party one hides the IP address, say through a VPN? Iâm not fully privy of this technology yet but just throwing it out there.
Hi dr
I understand that as I have read through this thread. From what I could read though, it looked like you and GvdB were experimenting on how to connect more than one client to a host studio. My previous post was based on your test in your last post that you said had failed. Maybe I mistook the reasoning.
