I’ve been caught out by this before. Just removing the staff doesn’t delete the content (which has its advantages). You should reinstate the hidden staff and delete the content. As @benwiggy says, the hidden staff with contents remains until explicitly cancelled.
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OK I think I’ll remove the bar all together and add a new bar. will copy music material from a different version. that still didn’t solve peculiarities as off 120- 147.. sorry to bother you all.
I’ll start again with an earlier file… thanks very much.
No, you should delete the extra system/staff all together.
Think in 3-D: if you have dug an extra tunnel until the other end; just removing a part of it that you can see does not remove the tunnel and its content.
Bring everything back to the surface and sort out the contents!
There is no need to go back to an older version - also, you might start doing the same mistakes again.
Ok, after using “Manuel Staff Visibility” on the adjacent bars to b67 I received this:
why? I do not know. I didn’t touch bar 66.
So If I understood you correctly I need to add an extra stave to piano 2, I did that and this is what I get:
You say I need to spread music material over two staves now isn’t it exactly as it needs to be?
Any ways removing a staff in 67 cuts away the last 32 note in the 4-32 groups m.m. 120 and on.how 120 relates or connects with 67? that’s beyond me.
I do not know hjow to solve this,
b.t.a - this discussion is purely academic… I know I am wasting my time dealing with these redundant issues, instead of giving me a go the software send me to the garage on and on and on. …
Highlighting errors that you’ve made, in order to prevent them in future and correct them now is not redundant, I would have thought.
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Totally agree and would have hope to find a solution. which is why I am concerning myself with the issue - and thank you. perhaps you could be more specific - there are things oing on that I don;t understand the reason for .
You say I made an error, what did I do? added a staff above in order to arrange the music? I am trying now to check the usefulness of alt+shift + i to confine what i do in bar 67.
I would only add a staff if I wanted to have 3 staves for that piano. Similarly, I would then only remove a staff if I wanted to go down to 1 staff, or when I wanted to end an additional staff.
Adding one staff and removing another at the same point – particularly when there is music in the staff that you removed – is not recommended, I would suggest.
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If you add a staff, and add music to it, and then remove the staff – the music is still there. The correct procedure in this case is to delete all of the music from the staff, and then remove the staff.
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I understood that and I have tried to do so, but doing so caused unwanted events in bar 120. Also - I need the music in the staff - so perhaps you mean I’ll have to re enter the music altogether instead of cut / paste/?
You clearly added a staff above the bass, then removed the original bass staff (not the one you just added). BUT you had already used that original bass staff later on - and those notes survive the removal of the staff!
Once you recover the deleted staff, it is very simple to move the notes you want to keep to a staff you want to keep. At which point you can safely remove the excess staff.
(It’s a feature that is incredibly useful, but a trap for the unwary)
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Ram,
firstly I highly recommend switching to Galley View.
Once you have made all (all) staves visible again, concentrate on the staves you want to keep ultimately.
Select music from the extra staves and either cut and paste them onto one of the two stave’s you’d like to keep. There is also a nice “Move to System above” or “Move to System below” which comes in very handy here.
Once you have moved all your music onto the two piano staves (the grand staff): delete the redundant systems.
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An update fir the sack of discussion.
I have downloaded the project from the group because I erased it in mine.
I had performed “select all” “manual staff visibility” in Galley view as you suggested. The hiding of stave started from the beginning of the piece… although I wanted to work locally on b67.
After I cut the music, removed and added two bars and paste the music - the +/- staff moved to bar 71 and all the music in the bass stave of piano 1 was gone. removing the +/- staff brought back the music and cleared the gap ( for the hidden extra stave) from the beginning of the piece up to b70 and on. That said , Mr. benwiggy have stated that removing the +/- staff indication won’t help I will continue the work on an earlier kept version of that project.
One should ask - if an action one performs in a project is so destructive - shouldn’t an indication be stated? for such an innocent act?
Thank you all dearly for your reply and willingness to attend and help.
Big hug.
Rami..