Musical and linear not working as expected

[Ontrei]

I’ve watched so many videos on this yet cannot get it to work at all.

If I switch all my audio off musical mode and change 2 of my imported loops tracks to musical (So they follow bars and beats)

And the same for 2 other audio tracks into linear (so they follow time)

The result is all 4 tracks act in the same identical way. The ones set to musical time do not stay in the same place as multiple videos have shown.

The linear do what they should. But from my tests all 4 tracks are acting like linear tracks.

Why is this the case?

[raino]

@Ontrei

If I switch all my audio off musical mode and change 2 of my imported loops tracks to musical (So they follow bars and beats)

And the same for 2 other audio tracks into linear (so they follow time)

I’m not sure I totally follow your description of how you have everything setup. There are settings for both Timebase (Linear or Musical) and Musical Mode (On/Off). Depending on the combination you use the results will be different. So it sounds like you’re using the wrong combo somewhere.

If this explanation doesn’t help you sort it out please post some screenshots showing the relevant Timebase and Musical Mode settings.

How Musical Mode and Linear/Musical Timebase Interact

How Musical Mode and Linear/Musical Timebase Interact Timebase - Applies to an entire Track. A Track’s Timebase determines if Events on the Track have their START Location measured in Bars & Beats or Minutes & Seconds Musical Timebase - Start is measured in Beats Linear Timebase - Start is measured in Seconds Musical Mode - Applies to an entire Audio File and will impact all Events created from that file throughout the entire Project. A File’s Musical Mode determines if an Event’s LENGTH is m…

[Ontrei]

Hey @raino
Thanks for the response and sorry on the late reply.
What I’m referring to specifically is what is occurring at 48 seconds > 1 minute and 3 seconds in this video:

FINALLY Understand Musical & Linear Time in Cubase (It’s Simpler Than You Think)

Notice when she changes the tempo the beginning and the end’s of the yellow events stay in the same place.
I set mine up identically but the ends move….?

[cubic13]

Hi, @Ontrei

On my end, to keep a recorded audio clip with the same visible duration when a tempo change occurs, I have to check that the Musical Mode option for it is ticked, in the Pool window. The changes between Musical Mode on/off are immediatly visible, as well as the hearable result during playback. This, with the Timebase switch set to Musical for the involved track.

I would suggest to read again @raino explanations, which are very well laid out.

[raino]

@Ontrei

I set mine up identically but the ends move….?

If the start doesn’t move but the end does, that implies that the Audio File’s Musical Mode setting isn’t properly set. Between the 2 different Timebase settings (Linear & Musical) and the 2 different Musical Mode settings (On/Off) there are 4 possible combinations and each one behaves differently. The link I posted explains this as clearly as I know how.

Also what you see moving around on your screen will look different if your main Ruler is set to Bars & Beats or minutes & seconds.