Musical Mode does not work on whole songs

Its about Cubase Artist 14. Bringing the right tempo to the project tempo and also aligning the Beats to the Grid works very good with short audios on musical mode, but with whole songs not. Even the first bar is far from being in the right tempo of the project tempo. You can argue that this could be because some older songs arent played with a metronome or a click, but I also see this phenomenon on modern songs and if even the first bar cant be aligned to the grid and project tempo, then something is wrong. Please don’t make me buy ableton, because ableton has no problem with this at all.

Sometimes the song doesn’t start on the downbeat of the first measure (for example if there’s an off- beat intro). If that’s the case, manually shifting the song to compensate can help.

I cut it to the first downbeat. I do this every time. Still dont works

Got it, sorry that didn’t work.

Can you show the details of what you are describing, give an example of one that doesn’t work?

Okay, I used the song “summer love from Nile Rodgers” and I cut it to one of the first downbeats. Then I put the first beat to the start of the first bar. When I click on musical mode actually nothing changes. You can see that of the Beginning of the secon bar nothing in the grid aligns with it and so on

It’s a bit more involved to achieve this, since the audio file’s tempo is not automatically determined by Cubase upon importing it.

Have you had a look at this manual entry yet?

sadly not. I tried now to quantize the song but beforehand I had to set Hitpoints but I can not capure any transients even when I change the intensity.

I don’t understand what your reply means, I guess it’s that you didn’t read the manual entry.

Anyway, you probably have to do Tempo Detection on the audio event.

I have cubase artist 14 and this has no Tempo Detection function. This function only exists in cubase pro. I did not understand your previous post because it only makes sense if I had the right tempo. Now I figured out trough tapping what the BPM could be. I also did some warp markers and quantized it but it still sounds akward because on same points the song get slower and faster just while playing. Why is this so extremely easy on ableton and not in cubase? Do I really need Cubase pro?

In this case you can go in and set the warp markers some more.

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make sense. So is this procedure also that slow and sophisticated in cubase pro, or is it better there? because I saw people doing that in ableton very fast.
Time and fast workflow is my only issue then

I can’t compare to ableton, since I’ve never used it.

Well, it’s much better. In my experience it is wholly dependent upon how clear the rhythmic elements in the audio are to the algorithm.

This might interest you: https://youtu.be/gHxUsk7d4Ho

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Can you describe exactly how you did this. Also can you repost your first image, but make sure the Track’s Inspector is visible and also show the entire Info Line for the Selected Audio all the way to the right edge of the Window. Your initial screenshot cuts off 2 settings that effect how this works.

Ok, I cut it down to the first downbeat and clicked on musical mode. thats the only thing I did


That all looks correct. The only thing I can think of is that the Audio’s Tempo Definition does not match what’s actually happening in the Audio. Do you know if the clip’s Tempo value is set as fixed Tempo or does it vary over its length?

Perhaps this video will help.

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Because Live is specifically designed for this kind of stuff, while in Cubase it is possible but not the main focus of the DAW.
If you find that you want to import a song and just have it follow the musical grid of the song very often then you are probably better off using Ableton Live.

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I had to rewrite this comment because I did not saw the full video. I thought he was trying to follow the metronome around the beat and not vice versa, but then later he gave cubase the information that it should take those hitpoint and create a straight tempo with it. Now this is really genius. Thank you!