Nektar Panorma Control Surface (Any Users) ?

I will report back with some feedback/review on the Nektar P1, once I get it, and begin using it for a little while.

Thanks,
Muziksculp

We haven’t mapped the inputs directly in the v1.0 release, but I’ll keep this in mind as a feature request for an update.

In the meantime, there is an ‘Internal’ button above the display on the Panorama series which switches all controls into ‘Internal Mode’ for any customizable mappings you want to make to Panorama’s controls through the generic remote or quick controls in Cubase.

We don’t have a forum on our site, but we’ll continue to monitor Nektar relevant posts in this forum. Each Nektar customer has a user account on our website, through which you can open a support case with specific questions and our support team will get back to you promptly. Support cases are stored in your user account for future reference. We’re pretty big on customer support!

Got my Nektar Panorama p6 a few day 's ago and i have to say It’s great.
The keys play well, and the faders and knobs feel solid.
Had to change my workflow (still grabbing for the mouse) but i get the hang of it now. It works much faster and the motorised fader is great.
The mapping of the vst 's is nicely done. Not all of my vst 's are mapped but Nektar will update regularly.

I think It 's money well spend !

John

Hi,

I’m back to provide some feedback. I just got my Panorama P-1 installed. and have been testing it with Cubase 7 /(PC).

I have not done any in-depth editing with it, just tested the faders, transport, pan, …etc. the basic editing tools, and all works great ! But… If I use VE-Pro 5 to connect to my slave PCs. The Panorama P-1 Freaks out, and eventually Cubase 7 crashes. Actually I had a similar issue when I tested the Novation Controller earlier this year.

It seems that the sophisticated control-surfaces have a hard time dealing with VE-Pro 5 :unamused: Something to do with the VE-Pro protocol, seems to confuse the protocol of these controllers.

So, when using VE-Pro 5 , I tend to use my YAMAHA Motif XF7 Keyboard workstation by switching ON its REMOTE mode for Cubase. It works great, and I have not had any issues, even when VE-Pro 5 is connected to Cubase 7.

I will post some more detailed feedback of the Panorama P-1 when used to control Cubase 7, but without having VE-Pro servers connected to the Cubase 7 Project.

I did email Nektar regarding the VE-Pro 5 problem I encountered with the Panorama P-1 , and was told they will be conducting some tests to try to emulate the problem. I’m still waiting to hear from them regarding this matter.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

a bit worried about the quality of the p1 as they seem to be popping up second hand all ready fro £125 :astonished:

I did not want to post yet because I am still getting to know my recently acquired P1, but let me tell you that, in my opinion, the quality of the product seems excellent so far. And Customer service (whom I asked a couple of simple questions) responded promptly and helpfully.
Perhaps you should jump and buy one of those second hand! :wink:

I might just do that then I can take the top off and spray it mat black :wink:

Could you please tell me what the faders are assigned to when the p1 is in instrument or fx mode are they still controlling the track volumes ?

Since I am just getting to know the P1 and I would hate to misinform you, let me quote their online info:

For a VST Instrument that is already mapped by Nektar:
“Faders 1-8: Control envelopes with amp envelope on faders 1-4 and filter envelope on faders 5-8 in the common cases where the envelope is a typical ADSR. More comprehensive envelopes may use all faders. Encoders above faders: These are often used for additional envelope controls (such as filter envelope amount) or mixer level control when a VSTi benefits from it (such as a drum pad instrument).”

For a non-mapped VSTi:
“You can assign any of the following controls in Instrument mode:
Encoders (all 16)
45mm faders 1-9
LED buttons 1-8
Display buttons 1-4”

"A VST effect plug-in is always controlled exclusively from the 8 encoders to the right of the display. This means that the fader section is still controlling the Cubase mixer. "

Just in case, if you haven’t done so yet, I would recommend working through the Nektar info for Cubase that starts here:
http://www.nektartech.com/s.nl/sc.26/category.20/ctype.KB/KB.533/.f

There are also a few warnings you should be aware of:

"In Cubase 7, hiding Mixer channels on Cubase’s main MixConsole can result in Panorama’s Mixer Mode getting out of sync with Cubase. This issue does not occur in Cubase 6.
When using Panorama with Cubase 7, we recommend using MixConsole2 or MixConsole3 for setting up custom mixer configurations, when using Panorama with Cubase.

When you disable a track in Cubase, it will no longer appear in Panorama’s Mixer mode. This can cause the track numbers in Mixer Mode to get out of sync with the track numbers displayed in Cubase."

excellent information pumafred thank you very much for that , I think i’ll grab myself a bargain and see for my self . Its a shame really that nectar opted for a folder option instead of more encoders IMO .

Yes, but I guess this is because the P1 is just a spin off from the P4 and P6 keyboards. However, if Nektar detects an unsatisfied demand, who knows…

Honestly, I wish Steinberg would offer a new Control Surface, with 8 faders, that looks professional, and is solid built. Something like the next step up from the C-121. I’m not a fan of the CMC series.

ya make it a all in one built in , simple , like i seen some here a click on the feature n it auto applies , then save it . sm

I am looking to get one of these but these problems are a bit worrying. I am not sure what is meant by using mixconsole2 in custom mixer configurations - does that just mean using mixconsole2 with all tracks visible so Panorama does not get out of sync? If so then that is probably an easy work around.

The only other issue I have with the P4 and P6 is the number of pads but overall I am very impressed and my credit card is twitching :slight_smile:

I just got a P1 and I’m still figuring out Cubase 7…but so far the P1 keeps crashing Cubase 7. I’m using a windows 8 computer. So far I hate everything…does anybody have any helpful solutions?

I got my Panorama P1 a few weeks ago, after testing it with my system, I had to return it.

Given my system uses two RME UFX Interfaces, connected via USB to my PC, I also use VE-Pro 5 for accessing two slave PCs. The P1 was having problems synching with my Cubase 7 tracks, was behaving very funky. So … No dice with the P1. I still attribute these issues to the way my system is setup (two UFX audio interfaces.) I think if I had only one UFX it might have worked fine.

For now, I am using my YAMAHA Motif XF7 's Remote Control functionality with Cubase 7, and it works like a charm. I hope YAMAHA/Steinberg release a new controller in the near future. I guess I could look into the C-121, or CMC controllers. But I would love to see a new, and much better control surface from Steinberg. So I will stick to using my Motif XF7 for now.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

Hi Klhoud. Sorry you are having problems with the P1. Have you opened a support ticket in your user account at www.nektartech.com? This is the best way to get your problems solved.

How do owners like the keys on this compared to Novation, etc?

I can’t comment about the keys because I have a P1.
I bought a P1 to replace a Novation Zero MKII that I really did not use that much, and other reasons I won’t mention here.
Anyway, the buttons and encoders faders are definitely much higher quality than the Zero. The visual feedback on the P1’s screen is far superior than the Zero.
The Cubase integration is excellent.
I have some questions for Nektar regarding, user “learn” mode. that seems to only be available for some plugins, not all plugins. I will send them an email.

I have a P1 with Cubase 7 on a Windows 8 computer and I’m having a hellish time. Sometimes it works and other times it doesn’t. If I can’t find a way to stabilize it I’m returning it. This is really disgusting. If anyone has suggestions I’d love to hear them. Thanks

Contact Nektar support, they have been great.
I’m on windows 7 and all is working very well.
Good luck.

Hey Johngar,

‘Learn’ is seen in the display only if the active plugin does not have parameters mapped by default. Where a plugin is mapped, you don’t see the ‘learn’ label, as the button is used to generate the page menu instead (labelled MENU).

For mapped plugins, you can engage user learn mode by holding ‘SHIFT’ and pressing the MENU button at any time (this is the right-most button beneath the display).

Hope that helps!

Regards,

Tim