I just upgraded to Cubase 14 pro. I am really loving the new score editor, but I can’t find a way to turn notes into grace notes anymore. I have searched.
The score editor interprets notes as grace notes sometimes, but not reliably. Is there a way to do that manually? It was easy in previous Cubases. Same with manually played trills - how do I turn those chaos notes into a neat trill in the score?
In theory, you should be able to select notes, then press the slashed or unslashed grace note button in the note toolbar. Alternatively, with pencil tool enabled, enable one of those buttons and start drawing grace notes.
However, both of these methods aren’t working as reliably as we’d like. As you found, the automatic detection of grace notes usually takes over.
We are working to improve this with a high priority for the next patch release. Sorry for the inconvenience in the meantime
As for trills, there currently is not direct connection between played trills and the trill symbol in score. That would be neat, and is something we’d like to explore further in future, but certainly won’t be available for a while.
Hi,
I know the trill problem. 
Again I would like to suggest a general hide function (for all!) elements of the score.
This allows you to simply hide all unnecessary trill notes and put a trill symbol on the one trill note.
But I would also like to emphasize the universal strength of a general hide function. This can be used to clean up and improve many things. Music notes can be very complicated and context-dependent.
best regards
the issue i isee is that it’s not possible to turn on grace notes when displayed… after spending one hour to find a solution, i see that grace notes appears when they are put on the 1st beat and the same place and time (or close) to the note / melody / solo played just after.
doing this force me to change the music / midi in the key editor and so how i played it.
i play always a grace note a bit before the “lead” note with a legato usually (for guitar solo playing)… so, i hope a solution would be allowed, to not “kill” the midi parts anymore just for this.
the other issue is the impossibility to change stuff in the score editor without having a change in the midi track part… to clean keyboards part or other stuff, I now create two tracks, one with the original midi not modified and one that i call “visual” and that i mute, so i can modify it in the score, without affecting the original midi track for the tune… i’m sure there is a better way to handle this… thanks !
Hi,
That’s exactly my problem. That was the great strength of the old score editor. You could change a lot (everything?) just for the view, without changing the underlying MIDI data.
In my opinion, that’s a general requirement for the new score editor, otherwise it doesn’t make much sense in a DAW environment.
You usually don’t want to change the original MIDI data for a note printout. But the printout still has to be adjusted and changed.
So in my opinion, the first step should be a general hide and move function for all elements. And also things like display transpose.
You shouldn’t rely solely on an automatic system. There are far too many special cases with music notes.
best regards
As I’ve said just above, the button doesn’t work entirely as it should. This will be better in the next patch release coming up soon, and will be improved further in future.
The Score Editor is still a midi editor. There are ways to influence the notation without editing midi by using teh display quantize settings (Instrument Settings) or display quantize events locally.
There have also been other threads requesting the ability to hide notes from notation. We are looking at ways to allow that in future!
The new Score Editor is different to the old Score Editor. The basic premise is to create beautifully notated music automatically, with the ability to influence that where required.
This new concept comes at the cost of flexibility, but it does open the door to finetune the results in Dorico. We realise this doesn’t capture every use case, and you’ve voiced your displeasure with the new Score Editor numerous times now. I’d like to encourage you to contribute meaningfully to the discussion. Furthermore, the Cubase 13 Score Editor is still just as usable as it was before.
We are addressing requests, including yours. Some sooner, some later, and some will have to be referred to Dorico, as that may just be the better tool for some jobs. If you have specific questions, please just ask.
Hi Stefan,
I really feel that you read the input from us users and I recognize that you want to improve the new score editor.
I’m excited to see what comes out of it. But I sense that it might be going in the wrong direction for me, so I keep talking about the important things for me, sorry.
The new editor is actually not that far from what I need. That is compact and flexible, e.g. sometimes several systems, sometimes just one system in one line, lead sheets for different instruments/musicians out of the MIDI data, but unfortunately a few important functions are missing. I will soon draw a kind of conclusion for myself and post it here. I hope that helps.
I am also convinced from what I read here that my use case is not unusual.
Thank you and best regards.