I looked everywhere if only I can see it . Am I missing something?
By the way ,
Howâs the X670 and the 7900x so far ?
Running good? USB interface?
I donât think youâre missing anything - thereâs no second OnBoard LAN Controller - so the user manual seems wrong.
yeah - seems to be a shortcoming in the BIOS - Iâm assuming youâre on the latest?
So far the X670 with 7900X is working really well for my use. And Iâve connected the RME audio interface on its own Host Controller in an attempt to prevent it competing with traffic from other USB devices.
But I also have a little mystery, where the motherboard documentation doesnât seem to align with what Iâm seeing in the Windows Device manager.
Itâs not causing any obvious grief, so Iâve not yet tried to figure it out.
I have a Gigbytes Z390 Aorus Master and it has both BT and Wifi , maybe you havenât installed the motherboard drivers ? baring in mind the Master (be sides the Elite ) is the top of the range , it should have both .
What you mean with native? You mean buggy? Indeed it is.
I have only one question - why bother yourself and buy top tier i9 13900K and disable half of it functionality? Turning off all those EIST, SpeedShift, C-States and especially E-cores - it sounds completely silly. Other guys even turning off hyperthreading as well - this is so silly! I have 13900K and all CPU features are enabled - as they meant to be used in modern systems with Win 11 or Win 10. And all works perfectly fine with Cubase 11 and 12. Tweaking some OS parameters such as Power Plan advanced settings etc its OK, but I really dont understand why to buy high end top tier CPU and just turning off all good modern functions? This is just my personal opinion of course.
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itâs a work injury that cubase has given us, weâve become programmers and not musicians or producers hahaha.
Steinberg says that hyperthreading and E-Core can be good to disable as they work to be stable and optimal, so cubase uses higher priority than the background app, it can be a struggle on big heavy projects. otherwise it works well to have bios as standard, and only optimize the memory if you have higher than original. and the most important thing in the bios for 12 and 13 gen is to disable overclocking and set the cpu to 125 watts and 253 watts myself the way short tearm to about 200 watts. in standard mode, auto is over 4000 watts, bios auto optimization allows to optimize the best performance and not take care of heat. and the cpu throttle.
and power plan to max in win. have my cpu at stable 55 mhz. when I run heavy projects with mĂ„mga vst, it works 23% and memory 95% â32gbâ should upgrade to 64gb.
with a fun project for mixing with isotope, cpu is at 90% and memory around 25%
if thereâs anything to do in the bios, this is it. unless you have a low noise supercooler.
intel gen 14 is coming to LGA1700 too. but itâs not worth upgrading until gen 15 comes Rhen intel hage fix the problem With P and E core. And höghet singel mhz. Intel 14 hade Lower Mozart then 13 gen and less cores â6 coreâ Max
Hey FilterFreq,
This specific motherboard the Z790 AORUS Master doesnât have the option to disable the wifi adapter in the bios. I checked and then found out I wasnât the only one complaining
Who said about disabling in the bios ? I disable as i said in the internet adaptor port in the device manager or just right click on your wifi icon in the tool bar ,open adaptor ,select and disable . Nico suggested the bios IIRc
Hey Nico5,
I ran Cubase 12 pro 12.0.70 on the 13900 with the rme babyface pro fs. I tried every tweak in the bios and Iâm really disappointed.
Its no where near my X570s msi unify 5950x.
I canât even run my projects. Iâm returning the board, cpu and ram.
Iâm debating if I should exchange for the 7900 x670 or just settle with the 5950x
In my mind I was sure of getting an increase in performance but no, its a decrease.
Well yeah thats exactly what I did . I disabled it in the device manager. My personal choice would been in the bios.
I disabled all the e cores. I tried opening my projects and forget it. Peak , asio guard going crazy. I tried every tweak in the bios and Iâm really disappointed.
Its no where near my X570s msi unify 5950x.
I canât even run my projects. Iâm returning the board, cpu and ram.
Iâm debating if I should exchange for the 7900 x670 or just settle with the 5950x
In my mind I was sure of getting an increase in performance
Hey, because if you donât turn them off, forget about running heavy projects.
This question should be addressed to Steinberg team.
I tried every tweak in the bios and
Its no where near my X570s msi unify 5950x.
In my mind I was sure of getting an increase of performance. But oh no ⊠A huge decrease
Its relative to your individual use case scenario and relative to OS level optimizations not CPU itself. I also run heavy projects with over 200 tracks and over 500 plugins, around 30-35GB RAM usage. a lot of sampled stuff and VSTi and all works perfect with all BIOS CPU related stuff enabled. Yes I tweaked stuff in OS power settings and windows core parking etc, but I dont have such a horrible experience as you have with 13th gen Intel. I dont think hardware is an issue.
Did you even try it out the box with latest firmware and drivers? It reads as though youâve gone straight in to making tweaks and now youâre running a non-standard config, which isnât a good place to be.
Windows and Cubase settings alone can make a massive difference in how the ASIO engine performs. Itâs not clear if youâve put this new hardware into an existing tower and just kept the drive as it is, or if itâs a brand new build with new settings etc. i.e. is sample rate the same, is buffer the same, do you have same ASIO multi-core settings and such like?
If itâs the same install running on new hardware, then have you checked the windows power profile?
At the end of the day, the CPU you have should at least be on a par with your previous, so I donât think this is necessarily a hardware issue.
When youâre getting into details of disabling individual components and drivers itâs to make minimal gains for low latency processing, thatâs never going to deliver any kind of night and day performance boost and should be some of the final changes you make (imo).
If you havenât returned the system yet, I would definitely try with everything turned on full: E cores, multi-threading and all. Iâve seen posts by several people, who seem to be happy with their modern Intel CPUs running in fully stock mode.
If thatâs still not satisfying, then the AMD option may be worth trying.
I had written up my reasoning for my recent system build, just in case you (or anyone reading this thread) is interested.
Hey skijumptoes,
Yeah of course the latest bios is a must on the Z790. Also adapt the right motherboard, psu, memory for the 13900kf. This specific one I purchased is a 20+1+2 Phases with a power stage of a 110Amp. Gskill CL30 6000
Titanium rated 1200w psu. 2 nvme wd black 850 & samsung 980 pro.
RME interface USB babyface pro.
Was hoping for an increase of performance comparing to my other setup X570s 5950x.
It seems likebhard to beat after trying the new intel stuff.
Is the new machine running a clone of the old SSD though? Or is it a clean windows install, with clean Cubase?
Hey Nico5 !
Before I tell you what was my last troubleshooting before deciding not keeping.
Iâm curious to know the settings on your RME interface with the 7900.
Buffer size on small and bigger projects.
Also are you on 32 or 64 processing precision?