Is this an old notation style that is not used anymore?
By default Dorico makes
(but it can easily be adjusted).
Is this an old notation style that is not used anymore?
By default Dorico makes
(but it can easily be adjusted).
If itâs clear without the bracket (and I think it is), you can omit it. I donât think itâs âoldâ notation.
I also donât think itâs an old notation style, it looks right for me.
Itâd be great if Dorico featured curved tuplet brackets⌠I think itâs been already requested.
Actually I find the original engraving somewhat unclear. The 3 isnât quite centered on the 16ths, nor on the whole beam, sorta halfway between. When you hide the bracket in Dorico the number centers nicely, which in turn makes the bracket unnecessary IMO.
It just struck me that the Dorico bracket is not symmetrical. The right part is a little longer.
Thatâs because it aims to enclose the noteheads, which I suppose it should. Unfortunately it looks unavoidably asymmetrical on the stem-side.
In the 19th century it seems the convention was to show a tuplet number (with no bracket, and even if no slur) on the notehead side.
I have this settings set.
Try the left one
Jesper
After some close-upâŚ
There seems to be no setting for the distance to the first note. Left and right âpaddingâ would be nice to have as settings.
@jesele
The horizontal red lines are the same length and show that the hooks are not symmetrical (independent of Tuplet bracket end position)
Donât think thatâs quite as conclusive as you think it is. Typesetting is generally done with optical, not geometric spacing. I agree this is not ideal in this case, but there are. many cases where geometrically even will actually look worse, especially once you start throwing things like accidentals into the mix.
I would align the bracket exactly with the stems if I were writing it like this. I used to adjust brackets that way in Sibelius frequently (before it offered the option to suppress the bracket on a tuplet beamed to other notes).
Also, it may be the case that you want brackets displayed elsewhere in the project, so you can turn them off at a local level by selecting the tuplet and adjusting it in the properties panel.
Yes, it is easy to turn off, but I think a âpaddingâ setting would be very nice to have as default. I think there is a need for the same âpaddingâ before the first note as there area after the last note, with symmetrical âhooksâ.
With a bigger span, it is harder to see the asymmetrical hooks;
I meant you can turn off the brackets all together at the local level, not manipulate the brackets themselves (which of course you can do in engrave mode with the handles).
Can you change all brackets in a piece at the same time?
Do you âselect all, filter Tuplets, change settingâ or is there some other way?
Yes, you can do that (set properties this way, that is) but if youâre going to do that, then just use the engraving options mentioned above.
But there is no engraving setting for âonly digitâ? That is only in the Properties panel?
Brackets are still necessary for things like quarter or half-note triplets. If you still donât want even those, then you can select all of the instances and suppress them in via the properties panel, but this doesnât seem terribly prudent unless its glaringly obvious.