Notational Improvements in Dorico 6 - Wishes

I like those ideas! It’s one where I don’t know the ideal solutions but I’m sure the team will think of something good.

Perhaps. I would view it as basically a back-end shortcut to engrave mode, without actually switching to engrave mode. I’m trying to think of app examples but I believe some of the Adobe stuff like Photoshop/Illutrator/InDesign have it so you can turn snapping on by default, and with a modifier key it will temporarily disable snapping while you move an object to go off-grid for a moment.

For me it would be especially helpful for labels and staff text, which often don’t need to be so strictly attached to rhythms and bars, so to effectively turn off snapping to adjust some text without switching modes would be fantastic. I hope it never hurts to ask… :wink:

To be clear, I would also love the ability to nudge things in write mode, as would many others. Sometimes you just need to move things around as you go. That’s just the simple reality. A modifier key would permit the integrity of Engrave mode to remain in tact (which is to say, no accidental nudges in write mode). To be doubly clear: I also like the concept of write vs. engrave modes, and I see the utility of having a dedicated engraving module. But I do find myself not-infrequently switching to engrave to make things clearer as I do note entry (most notably, to add system & frame breaks).

I think that is very connected to one’s personal work flow. I never have that need, which probably is because I never enter any music outside of galley view.

On the other hand I constantly need switching write/engrave modes during layout phase, so it is an ingrained habit of mine to always have to windows open, one in engrave mode and one in write/galley mode. Much faster to go from window to window than to wait for modes to switch.

This is true, no doubt. I do lots of hymn setting, which does not work well at all in galley view unless you set the default spacing values to be extremely large, otherwise you end up with your multiple lines of lyrics colliding with other staves. As such, galley view is of limited use to me in that context. I need to be able to see all my lyrics and divide staves by phrases of text.

Regardless of workflow, a little more write-mode flexibility would be welcome by many. I recall many discussions about it in the earlier days of the forum.

I see. So maybe two windows open would be a good solution for you as well, just keep them both in page view? If you have a big screen you could keep them both visible, side by side.

TBH, not something I had considered previously (I typically need to be copying a lectionary text and need those sources on the other screen) but I have a dual monitor setup that might accommodate this, at least during the note-entry phase.

I have a request with two options to implement:

  1. Playback for turns
  2. For the workaround of using grace notes and then hiding them, include the option for not including them in note spacing calculations so that there isn’t an unusual gap between notes.

Another one I forgot about: properly anchored slurs on stemless notes. Currently, all slurs behave as if stems were still visible, and these require lots of correcting (at least in my pseudo-plainchant liturgical music).

The usual workaround is to add a staff, notate the turn on that and then remove that staff. There is no impact on layout.

EDIT: This only works for single players, not section players.

I just tried that again, and now that works. Thank you!

Is this your composition? I really like it!

This workaround unfortunately doesn’t work for me, as I usually work with section players. I can only add staves for single players, not section players.

Thanks! Yes; I was working on this one today. It’s based on a chant found in a manuscript dated 1130.

I haven’t made a recording of this new one yet, but the last few years I’ve been composing new psalm settings with the melodies distilled from medieval chants. This was last week’s, which is a very close adaptation of the original:

I love your adaptation of the Adoremus in aeternum chant in your setting! I’d love to see more parishes start to use music like yours and traditional hymns instead of Praise & Worship songs and songs from the GIA/OCP hymnals (like “One Bread, One Body”) that’s usually used now.

I really love it! Working a lot in this field, making simple plain chant tunes catchy, arranging in a very simple choral setting. Your ones are absolutely attractive, congratulations!

Really beautiful, James.

Wow, lots of input here. Any indications on when Dorico 6 will be released? I bought a Pro license and am trying to time its activation to get 6 directly rather than get 5 now and upgrade again. Please don’t say it’ll be released when it’s ready! Thanks.

The Dorico team has always been tight lipped about releases. We never know precisely when they will be (although we can be reasonably certain major updates occur within 18 months). Nor do we know precisely what will be in each new version.

I think someone from the team mentioned ‘this year’, which doesn’t say much, of course.

Possible dates :

  • 20th March… (spring)
  • 1st April (Joke)
  • 6th June (Normandy landing)
  • 8th June (Pentecost)
  • 21st June (summer and Music Festival [in France])
  • 25th December (Christmas)
  • I don’t know…