Hi everyone,
I´m struggling with note- and beam grouping in Dorico: I want to get this grouping (e.g. measures 3-5 in the upper voice),
but all I get in Dorico is:
I have tried different settings in the Notation Options, but I did not get my desired result. Maybe someone can give me a hint?
Dorico’s solution is the most correct one because the beaming used in the source can be confused with a 6/8.
The fact that most music from the XIX century and before used it is a whole other story, of course.
If you really want this, you need to manually force the beaming, I believe.
Welcome to the forum, @Christian_Schalk ! I’m sure you’ll find, as I have, that’s it’s a marvelous group of very generous members.
Regarding your beaming question: FWIW, I would much prefer to read it “Dorico’s” way for its greater clarity, but I fully recognize that there are sometimes very valid reasons for reflecting older notational practices. Is your need for the “old-school” beaming compelling? (If so, @MicheleGalvagno ‘s suggestion is the way to go.)
Enter the time signature as shift-M [3]/4 (note the brackets!!!)
This will beam across the whole bar if possible.
@Janus , will that also automatically produce the “6/8” beaming in the RH line?
Ah. It doesn’t like the syncopated 1st beat.
So, force duration on the crotchet and it works.
Christian, besides following Janus’s tips you can also do your beaming manually.
If you select a couple of notes, have a look into the context menu “beam together”.
You might have to “Un”-tie first.
You may also like to setup a short key for this. There is also “Split beam” and “Make unbeamed”.
Also make yourself familiar with “Force duration” - that’s the tool that looks like a lock symbol / or (letter)O. You can select two syncopated „Achtelnoten“ and change them into a quarter note “crotchet”.
Select the syncopated note, press
(letter)O56
If you run your Dorico application in German, the names are different, but you’ll know the game.
Hello everyone,
Thanks for the warm welcome and your ideas! I already know about “Force duration”. I just wasn’t sure if there was something suitable in Dorico’s options that I had overlooked.
@MicheleGalvagno and @judddanby: I actually like the “old” beaming and I also find it easier to read.
Christian
I think the original beaming would encourage those passages to be played with a 6/8 feel. It would take some concentration to keep to 3/4 accents!
So I can understand why the OP wants to retain the original.
It is not a 3/4 or 6/8 feel, it’s the ambivalence between those two which makes the phrasing of this simple romantic organ piece musically interesting. That’s why the original beaming is good.
Nice point, @k_b . Speaking for myself, it’s sometimes (too) easy in the context of a forum about using notation software to lose sight (or, really, sound) of the nuances behind why we’re using it in the first place.
Yes, nicely put.
