Note input with trackpad becomes disabled in meter-less environment

System Info: Mac Studio M2, macOS 15.4 Sequoia, 32gb RAM, drive has 260GB available; running Dorico Pro 5 under Rosetta in order to access VST2 Hauptwerk Organ Sample set

Setting: creating plainchant flow without a time signature (no meter); using quarter, half and whole notes that are input with trackpad; bar and double bar lines added after phrases and sections respectively; use Bar popover to add # of quarter notes for each section as needed

Issue: mouse becomes disabled at the odd looking rest at the end of the tenor line in the attached file. Input using only the keyboard works. Very odd. Can someone explain why this happens and why these non-standard rests are used when there is no meter?

Note: The multiple player/instrument setup is how I am utilizing Hauptwerk VST2 to its fullest potential with a three manual and pedak organ sample set in addition to a few non-sounding instruments to which a score reduction is added.
Holy Eucharist Rite II - Nicene Creed.dorico (593.5 KB)

I don’t have a problem with entering notes with the mouse/trackpad at the end.

That rest represents four breves. A non-metre bar still has a length, and if you’ve added music and then deleted it, it will stay the same size.

I’d really try to use one of the many other methods than clicking notes into position with the trackpad. You can use the virtual piano keyboard in the lower panel, for example.

One other thing: You’ve got tokens for the Composer and Arranger in your DEFAULT page template, so they’re appearing on every page.

Interesting. So are you using a trackpad or a mouse? What is your OS environment? The reason I ask is that I cannot enter with the trackpad.

I appreciate the recommendations but trackpad input otherwise works flawlessly for me and it is my workflow but thanks for the suggestion. As far as the tokens, I am aware and the engraving part is nowhere close just yet. But, thank you, anyway.

That’s using the Apple Magic Trackpad on a Mini, and the built-in on an MBP.

Thanks. This has happened to me once or twice before. The work around has been simply to enter that one blocked input by keyboard and then return to the trackpad. I just thought the developers might want to know of this small glitch that may be a truly simple fix. By the way, I think I shared the file AFTER I used the keyboard input. Try deleting that last pitch. You should get what looks like double, bold, vertical bars covering about two staff spaces. That was the rest, not the one in the file, that halted trackpad input (duration before pitch approach). Thanks, again, for your input.

I can reproduce it in your file. When there is exactly this length of rest left in the flow (I do not know the name of this rest (maxima?) but I know how to count it :slight_smile: ) no notes can be entered with the mouse.

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How are you entering them? I was able to just click where the rest is, to enter a note in the next beat position.

By clicking where the maxima is. If there are more rests (or less) it will work, but with exactly this rest not.

Yes, thank you. I was beginning to think I was having a senior moment turning into something more serious! That’s exactly it.

If referring to the rests, they show up when adding, for example, quarter note durations in order to add additional notes.

If referring to the notes, Shift+N, 6 for quarter note (for example), clicking on that rest as it is the position where the caret is for the next note.

Exactly. Thank you for clarifying this better than I seem to be doing.