MIR Pro 3D is a separate App to which a VST can invoke per instrument. It is independent of any library. So it can be used with any audio source be it a VST instrument or otherwise. So I doubt it will ever be tied to a specific library. I do hope you will look into supporting this.
I will try to remember. I’ve set the LX480 to a large random hall+early reflections (with every setting to be as clean as possible). The AMEK compressor is set to gentle master bus preset (very little action during that piece, except maybe in the loudest moments). The Pulsar 8200 is set with a loudness effet (sub and air +3dB or so) and I’ve cut three frequencies (around 350Hz, 800 and 1500 IIRC)
Once I am back home I can send you screen captures if you want ![]()
Thanks Marc. Don’t worry about the screen captures - I’ve got the gist of it. Layering is obviously going to be important.
Well, I’m a bit red-faced now. Turns out I have Cinematic Studio Strings but not Cinematic Studio Solo Strings. Gee, I wonder why it wouldn’t play? ![]()
So sorry to waste your time. I’m off to play with the BBCSO Pro engine that I just purchased. And yes, I do have BBCSO Pro installed. ![]()
No worries. ![]()
For the record, you can hide libraries you don’t have by clicking the labels at the top of the “Add instruments” screen. The setting is saved and recalled the next time you open NPPE
That’s good to know. Thanks again!
I have never seen a scene like the NotePerformer team, where we as users can communicate with the creators of NotePerformer up close (and receive such detailed and fast responses on different platforms). Their professionalism is truly admirable! I am looking forward to the next update of NP4!
…they said, on the Dorico forum. lol.
And you say this in the Dorico forum. Really?! ![]()
Haha, I forgot about the Dorico team. Their professionalism is also very admirable!
Arne @Wallander
But am I correct that Cinematic Studio Solo Strings, being part of the Studio Series will work okay with NP4?
@Derrek Yes, can confirm that it works perfectly. And it doesn’t even need a lot of RAM. (I have only 8 GB.)
@Wallander On the score of modelled instruments, do you have any plans for supporting Pianoteq? Also, how about Hauptwerk? I would love it if NotePerformer could someday handle organ stops in a more or less ‘natural’ way.
That would be wonderful! ![]()
In fairness to you I think most readers would understand you were complimenting the NotePerformer team (not sure if it is all Arne or others, too) rather than disparaging the Dorico team we esteem so highly. Both are incredible and Arne and his team certainly deserve the highest praise. How lucky we are to have 2 such helpful and committed teams!
yes. Because of the memory demands of having to running multiple Kontakt instances under the hood (which isn’t necessary of course if you use VE Pro or something), my 32Gb RAM won’t cut it. It will run with full orchestra but only just and with some cutouts. If you have at least 64Mb --which is what is anyway specified in the system requirements – then by all means give it a go. Mind you, I should try just the solo strings on their own. That might be interesting.
Hi @MarcLarcher,
Would be really nice if you can share just an audio of the problematic strings part of the Adagietto movement.
I would like to hear how exactly it sounds.
Best wishes,
Thurisaz ![]()
Hi @Wallander,
Arne, may I leave here two suggestions for the next updates? ![]()
- Would be nice if we are having more control over the AI Performance of the NPPE.
- That way we would be able to leave our own fingerprint. Otherwise everyone who uses both NPPE and BBC SO Pro, for example, will sound the same.
- An option that will allow us to act as a “virtual conductors” will be very welcomed.
- Still I think, that NPPE should be able to support VE Pro, no matter that it offers a similar functionality, still many people relay on VE Pro as virtual instruments host.
- VE Pro is not only a host platform, but it also offers remote connection, fully functional mix console, automation and 3D positioning when MIR is involved.
- By the time Dorico becomes more and more closer to the DAW, which means it will become more and more comfortable for film music scoring by using high-end libraries. Here VE Pro is a the game player without an analog… Most probably you’ll to collaborate with VSL on this improvement. No doubt that all VE Pro users here will be very thankful for such support!
Best regards,
Thurisaz ![]()
That is not a given, and I don’t think it is a goal of Dorico development.
I think the problem has mostly disappeared in the version I have posted in the thread earlier, but I hear this strange effect towards the end of the piece (last minute, long low notes).
Thank you for the suggestions!
Manually controlling the performance isn’t feasible, unfortunately. The primary function of NPPE/NotePerformer’s performance rules are problem correction and targeting the right dynamic, timing, and phrasing as far as that’s possible. We have no simple dials to turn to make the music better or worse. Suppose an NPPE note is played too loud, for example. In that case, that’s not our intentional interpretation. Typically, it’s a case where the library may only have three levels of dynamics to choose from, while your score has eight levels between PPP and FFF, so there’s no closer sound available. Even if you alter the volume of a sound to produce an intermediate dynamic, the discrepancy is audible.
The idea of the virtual conductor isn’t new, but it’s like rocket science and a lifetime project outside our scope. We’re a small company where I program everything. I will leave that for someone else to pursue.
Regarding VEP support. These advanced features would only benefit a small subset of our users with advanced skills and special software beyond that of a sample library. Implementing them would halt all other development for a long time. If you want advanced mixing facilities in MIR or other plug-ins, you can route NPPE instruments to 16 different outputs in Dorico and set up a personal version. The VST ecosystem was made so users with particular needs could spend their time creating a custom setup. It’s not feasible for companies to tailor a program for every user.
It’s also important to remember: If you want control over the slightest nuance of performance and sound, that’s the primary function of a DAW, such as Cubase. The primary function of a notation program is print. It’s Microsoft Word for music. We’re working with a secondary part of a program that can be likened to text-to-speech but more complicated.
Analogously, the function of NPPE is not to replace all the functions of the DAW but to remove 90% of the problems of using sample libraries in a notation program.