Notes without noteheads (in notehead editor)

Dorico
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I would like to have notes without noteheads. So far I used zero opacity color to do it. But new feature – notehead editor – seems to be better solution, because in this case I can select all elements in the bar (or even in a whole piece) and just change notehead to „no-notehead” shape.
I tryied to create new notehead category, edit the notehead and just grab this red squares and minimalize standard notehead to zero size. Everything works, but when I change notehead to this „no-notehead” shape, I can’t select it anymore. So, I can’t change the shape to different. Even when I select whole bar by selecting all elements.
Any idea, how to fix it? How to achieve „no-notehead” shape?

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Does the note have a stem you can select?

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Thanks to Your question I solved the problem. It’s possible to select stem only in Engrave mode, so I started to explore this mode. I can’t change notehead, when I select only the stem (as You suggested), but somehow if I select the stem and the place where notehead should be (if it weren’t be so small), I can change the notehead shape. I have no idea, why I can’t do this in Write Mode, but I am happy, that it works.

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Can you select the stem, and then press the up or down arrow? That should move the selection from the stem to the notehead—at least, it does with a normal notehead.

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I don’t think this is really a good solution for a note with no notehead. We will in due course provide a proper means of hiding the notehead of a note, which will probably involve showing a signpost as we do for hidden accidentals (though those signposts are not shown by default, so you might not know that they exist).

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I was thinking of selecting the stem in Write mode.

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Derrek, as far as I now, it’s impossible to select stem in Write mode. But it works, as I described, in Engrave mode.
Of course it’s not really good solution, but still better than changing “opacity”.
Thank you, Daniel, for the information. I can’t wait for more elegant solution.

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Hello Daniel,
so is it already possible to use empty noteheads or Notes with no notehead but only a stem?
In Sibelius it is just one of many notepads to choose from. Somehow I can’t find it. thank you for Your work!! best, ketan

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Here is an earlier post in which I give a procedure that will hopefully work for you.

There’s no direct support for headless notes in Dorico at the moment, but I would anticipate us adding some functionality in this direction in a future version.

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Thank You so much for Your quick response. One more thing: Any Idea how I achieve this?: (Picture attached) the first to bars I build in Sibelius by hiding every other note in the bar 3. Any way to do this in Dorico yet?
Bildschirmfoto 2020-12-29 um 15.30.21|690x36

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You could use a series of nested tuplets, I guess, and hide them? I expect that technique has been discussed here on the forum before and you should be able to find some discussion if you search for it.

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Dear Daniel, Your dedication is the reason I’m switching from Sibelius to Dorico right now… This kind of support and contact is so precious. Thank You so much. I will search for the topic in the forum. best, ketan

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https://www.scoringnotes.com/tutorials/feathered-beams-that-look-and-play-back-correctly-in-sibelius/

This is from 2016 and for sibelius, but the principle totally should work for Dorico, too.

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thank You Kiafkid! Until now, I just wrote 32 Notes as long as I want the Accel. or the Rall. going on, and then hid some of the notes, so it is also making sense graphically. (so: show one note, hide two, show one note hide one in case of an accell. for example) And then to make the playback work properly, I just selected the hidden Notes, and turnt them silent with the inspector. Your Solution sounds great. But how does it work in Dorico? But it deffnetly points me in a good direction! So thank You very much!

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you create tuplets in the same manner. Then select them and disable bracket and tuplet number in the properties panel.

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Thank You! I will check this out!

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I might be stupid here, since I’m new to the program. But right now I only managed to disable bracket and tuples number for everything/in general. But not for only the selected Notes. Do I miss something here?

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select the tuplet (not the notes themselves). Hit cmd/ctrl-8 (depending on windows or mac). On the bottom the properties panel appears with options for the tuplets. Activate the numbering and bracket options and select the appropriate option.

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YES! Thank You!