Nuage and M1 Mac

[Nuage]

Hi all,

Getting a bit lost here.

This post looked like Nuage + M1 works (N11 w/ Rosetta or N12 w/ Rosetta only I guess though):

@MonsterSP

Foolish me, after reading that the latest Tools for Nuage didn’t work with M1 Macs I created this post. Today I tried it and it does work, at least with Nuendo 11 (I haven’t upgraded yet).

But this statement from Yamaha says it is not working M1-native and will not:

@Merayah

Uhm?! Say what?!!

Yamaha statement: NUAGE and Apple silicon

The reliability and ‘mission critical’ operating standards expected by Yamaha professional users are second to none, which the company prides itself on not only satisfying, but often exceeding. However, the current status of the electronics manufacturing industry means that redeveloping the NUAGE post-production system to deliver the required level of operational support for Apple silicon will not be feasible.

Therefore, while Yamaha will aim to support the ongoing integration of Intel®-based computers into the NUAGE ecosystem, it is not possible to redefine NUAGE for use with the Apple silicon architecture.

Yamaha will make every effort to ensure Intel®-based NUAGE systems continue to function with the reliability and effectiveness which their users have come to expect. The company will also continue to take all user feedback into account when making future product decisions.

This post says there is hope that it will work one day (M1-native I assume?):

@Hans-Olav

Good to hear that you got it to work. I did not, but I’ll try again then.

But to your question: I got a lengthy reply from Yamaha when asking this very question. It seems there is hope, at least. I’m guessing I could (should?!) share that info here on the forum? I’ll check if they have anything to add, it being a while ago.

And in Nov 2022 we actually got a new M1-native driver for CC121, which seems to show that Yamaha/Steinberg could care for M1 users…

@Ed_Doll

The driver update to add native Apple silicon support has been released yesterday.
CC121 | Steinberg

Thank you for your patience!

So what is the actual current status for Nuage + M1 native setup ? Does not work and no hope it will ever work? Or some hope?
Actually bricking the Nuage for M1 users - or condemning them to using Rosetta - given the price of the Nuage platform and the fact that some Mac-based professionals probably invested in this platform until up to 2 to 3 years ago - would be a very detrimental / risky message for Yamaha to send if they actually want to maybe come back to the market with such kind of product in the future… Who would actually buy it if Yamaha cuts support that quickly for clearly objectionable reasons?

Best
A.