Nuendo 14 crash using ARA Spectralayers 12

Hi. I am working on a tv show. and I am having real problems, because every time I try to save the project, it crashes. The only work around I was able to do was to open Nuendo in safe mode, with all external plug ins disabled. This included Spectralayers 12 as an ARA. I can still use Spectralayers 12, by using edit using Wavelab, and then in Wavelab, open external editor. So the good news, is by doing this I can at least save the project. I have reinstalled the latest version on Spectralayers, and just today the latest version of Nuendo 14. I have sent the logs to Steinberg as requested. Does anyone have any ideas what is going on here.

Here is the safe mode error message.

Thanks

John

I suggest you upload the .ips crash log here so someone might have a look.

Nuendo 14-2025-12-04-073106.ips (257.7 KB)

Here is what you asked for I think :slight_smile:

Is there anyone who can help with this. Thank you

Hi. This is still an ongoing problem. Nuendo has been crashing on a number of projects now. I can only save a project when all third party plugins have been deactivated, this includes Spectralayers. When I try to save the projects with third party plugins activated, then it just crashes. I have repeatedly sent the log file to Steinberg.

I decided to uninstall Spectralayers. And I could then save the projects with third party plug ins activated.

I am now reinstalling Spectralayers 12 and trying again. Is there anyway of using Spectralayers as a stand alone only piece of software, and not ARA, which is what I think is causing the problem.

Thanks

John

Hi John, AFAIK unless you are using Spectralayers Go, it is a standalone program, yes.

I’ve been having a myriad of problems in SL12 that I didn’t have in SL11, so I’d recommend rolling back to 11 for now, if you can.

Good luck!

Thank you. I will try that. But unmix noisy speech is brilliant for what I need. oh well

Unmix Noisy Speech is a staple in my workflow and I’m stuck with SL11 for now. I think SL12’s version is marginally better, but UNS in SL11 is plenty good for any job!

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I found UNS to be marginally better in SLP12, as well. Today I was using resize selection all day and night, man, that it a huge time saver.

I’m just chiming in to remind that SLP projects are interchangeable regardless of version, so running SLP11 and 12 on the same machine in standalone works reliably for me. I do not run the different versions simultaneously. Of course, I keep redundant copies. And I’ve tried ARA in CuBase 13 maybe once and didn’t save…I always work SLP in standalone.

Hopefully these issues with Nuendo will get sorted out soon.

Also, just to say, is FFT size an issue? I have been doing a lot of manual lo freq NR and higher FFT sizes really help define low end. Do you guys change FFT size all the time? I do, lower FFT sizes for faster performance. High FFT sizes will have user waiting around. Just trying to help eliminate the obvious :slight_smile:

Thank you to both of you for your help. I have uninstalled SLP 12, and I did try and install SLP 11, but unfortunately my projects refused to open then.

I would love to have SLP 12 on my system, but only for stand alone mode and not ARA. I think the ARA is causing the problem. I think it has become glitchy after receiving the AAF files from the client. They are using davinici, so maybe they have some strange way of working, which has made some of the audio files problematic.

Who knows…..

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Oh man, that’s no good!

we should tag @Robin_Lobel at least, I should think

I would consider a move to Nuendo with the current deal, but these long standing ARA issues are enough to keep me where I am…still using SAWStudio

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Well I installed SLP 12 and I am pretty much back to where I started lol. If I save the project, it just crashes. If I go into safe mode and disable third party plug ins, then I can save. So while in safe mode, I can open and event within wavelab, and from there open spectralayers. its a bit long winded, but at least its an option. Disabling ARA would be perfect though

Hi @John_Roddy (@ctreitzell thanks for tagging me)

So if I understand well, in Nuendo you can properly assign SpectraLayers to audio clips, and work with it, but it crashes when you try to save the project in Nuendo ?

Could you do a simple test: create a new Nuendo project, import an audio clip, assign SpectraLayers to this audio clip (don’t do any edits), save the project, close it, reopen it.

Let me know if it crashes at any of these steps, and if SpectraLayers is still properly assigned to the audio clip after reopening.

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Hi Robin,

It’s great to hear from you.

I did everything that you requested and everything worked as expected, no crashes and SLP12 is still assigned to the clip.

Thanks

John

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Well folks. After all the pain and anguish! We have a fix.

I emailed Greg Ondo about this issue, and he gave an answer in his hangout last night.

It prompted me to think that maybe I had missed one of the Spectralayers Pro 12 extension edited events. There were many edits, so I thought maybe I had missed one or two, and failed to make them permanent.

I hi-lighted the whole project, went to audio - extensions - make extensions permanent, and voila!!! I can now save the project.

Thanks to everyone who helped with this, it was entirely my fault, but hopefully this will help other people not make the same mistake.

The Greg Undo club cubase hangout answer was near the end, on the 27th February 2026.

Thanks

John

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John, great to read that you found a solution :smiley:
Hopefully this will help someone else

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