OK smarties, 'splain tuplets to me

I read the docs, watched Anthony’s videos, searched here and read “Getting Started with Dorico 3.5” and still not getting it. Time to understand this finally …

For example, I want to fit 6 notes in the space of an eighth note/quaver. Like this but without the rest, and with a proper duration - just six notes in the space of a half beat

I did think "well, do 8:1, eight in the space of 1, and just take half of that for the first eighth note and the rest of 6 sixteenths, but no

Questions:

• 3:2 specifies 3 notes in the space of 2 - the 2 refers to how many beats in the present time signature correct? Not grid, not anything else?
• How do you specify fractional beats? Nothing I try works, for example 6 notes in the space of an eighth/quaver as specified above?
• Any other tips to help this poor confused soul, I’m fundamentally missing something …

I think the first figure would be considered the correct one.
but just to ilustrate.

bar 1. Where you normally would expect 4 32th notes you have 6 (6:4)
bar 2. Where you normally would expect 2 16th notes you have 6 (6:2)
bar 3. Where you normally would expect 8 64th notes you have 6 (6:8)

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If you create a tuplet by selecting a note first, then that note becomes the basis – for example 3 quarters in the time of 2 quarters for a quarter note triplet. With the popover you can specify a different note value as the basis with one of w, h, q, e, x, y, z (for whole note down to 64th note).

Normally four 32nd notes fit in an eighth, so to fit six 32nds you could:

• Enter the first note as a 32nd, select that note, get the popover and type in 6:4
• Or, quicker: During note entry you can type 6:4y to specify the 32nd basis
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In other words, w/out a note selected the basis is the (lower value) of the time signature? So a x/4 time sig would be a quarter note basis, or a selected quarter note in any time signature?

Enter the first note as a 32nd, select that note, get the popover and type in 6:4

Yes! Thanks, I’ll practice this but it’s beginning to make some little sense

During note entry the default basis is the current note value (shown in the Notes panel).

So the sequence for this sextuplet would be: 4 ; 6:4 Return (for 32nd, tuplet, ratio).

You mean 3;6:4 Return

OK got that, need to ruminate but this helps thanks.

Dang, you are right – I’ve been at this too long today. But I’ll jump at an “OK Smarty” question! (if I think I know)

Also, this is the same as entering 6:4y or 6/4-3 directly in the popover (many options).

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