So you double-clicked on the blue Pattern event and instead of opening the Pattern Editor it opened the Drum Machine? How do you open the Pattern Editor then - thru the menu?
Anyway this is great, now its just some detective work to figure out how to get this behavior. I wonder if this works different on Macs & PCs? If someone reading this uses a Mac could you please play around with this.
As you can see my Preferences are the same as yours. So maybe there’s some other setting that comes into play.
Ah ok, I see the difference in what you’re saying now although the way I do must work, perhaps I’ve got something else set a certain way and the combination of the two gets that result. Either way, the 3 ways I can get that open are
1 the keyboard shortcut, I’ve set mine to ctrl+d (currently unused)
2 anytime that bottom zone is open you can press the little arrow in the top right hand corner and it will pop that window out, this works for the entire bottom zone I think.
3 double clicking. Depends what you click on of course, samples, patterns, audio all different as you know.
I’d try changing the key command for the one you don’t want, opening in the bottom zone, to something really long and dumb, change the command for it in a sense, at least the way to get to it. Then see what happens. I am on a Mac but I also have Cubase installed on my Pc, I I will test
Key Commands: I found the two highlighted red interesting. What does the last one mean for example?
. So I assigned it to control+shift+w (something not assigned) and tested it. It doesn’t seem to open any editors exceptthe drum editor. Like its specially made for it
Now what about the top one? That makes it sound like we can toggle our preference of yes or no to opening things in the lower zone. So I assigned shortcut and tested it. Nothing seemed to change for me.
Then I took a close look at our settings preferences and actually read the words several times and thought about it.
Now I know this isn’t strictly what were discussing here but I think it is good background and might help those who aren’t aware.
I’ve got the Key editor set to the default editor. As you know a midi track could have midparts, midi parts for drums, pattern parts, sample audio etc. so the app needs to know which one do you generally prefer and unless you say otherwise, were going to open it in this one. So if you use the drum editor (not the drum machine) set it as such.
One last thing I thought could be good for someone I n your situation is unticking the last one. This means the lower zone doesn’t’; t keep flashing up and down and changing all over the place when you’re moving about,. At least that’s what that phrase indicates however, I switched it off an noticed minimal differences.
Open editor commands with open editors in a window. Key word here is commands, not UI elements like buttons ( to me).
If I press that little blue button It would open the lower zone but according to that settings in the presence it shouldn’t. Interestingly, if you think about it, nothing else (non track type) does that. Plugins don’t open in the lower zone for instance. So why do the dr ums have to? End of the story is, its possible but you may have to let go of the button you current use to invoke it.
So after all your waffle you can’t open the drum machine in its own window without having to open it in the lower zone first.
This was the whole point of this post.
no, not true. in my case, i have edit vst instrument set to ‘i’. so when im on the drum machine track, I press i. you could do a combo of open drum machine and then open in separate window as well i suppose.
if its a real pain to click that expand window the trick to this is toggling this command ‘toggle link project and lower zone’ i must have this always off, when i changed it to on (there is no visual feeedback i can see) and do what i do, i can get the window open but its a mute point because the lower zone still opens up. with this set the otherway around, i can open it wihout the lowerzone showing at all which i think is what were all after.
So… just a moment ago I managed to open Drum Machine in a separate window with my shortcut to open instruments (shift+e). But it happened only once. I can’t redo it anymore 5 seconds of happiness.
Seriously… f*** that bottom window. I use Cubase because I like its workflow. If I would want the workflow of Live I would use Live. it’s that simple. Steinberg, give us an option to use Cubase the way we have been using it for years. Give us the option to open Drum Machine and Sampler (and any other thing that you’ll add in the future) the same way as any other plugin. I don’t wanna see that bottom window ever again.
I get that it’s useful for folks using laptops. But for anyone using multiple monitors it only gets in the way. There should be a Preference to globally disable it as a default.
I don’t even use multiple monitors, but the lower zone just takes away so much space from the arrangement view, I very much prefer to have a separate window that I can open with a key command and optimally can scale (!) to full screen.
5 seconds of happiness.