OT: Questions regarding accidentals in conductor's score vs. part scores

I’m not sure what the best practices are, so I’m creating this thread for some advice.


Above is a screenshot of my unfinished conductor’s score in transposed pitch; this passage is in F major, with the harmonies being Bm7b5 - E7 - Am7 - D7 - Gm7…

My first question – which I’m assuming the answer is “yes” – is: should the accidentals in the transposed conductor’s score match the harmonies? For example, should the oboe’s note on beat 3 of m. 43 be an F# since it’s the third of D7?

If so, my next question would be: should the accidentals in the transposed conductor’s score match the accidentals in the parts? I haven’t started working on the violin parts, but I changed the F# I just asked about to a Gb in the oboe’s part because it would simplify the music by getting rid of cautionary accidentals; I also justified it in my head since it reflects the melody moving down chromatically, plus the accidentals match F major being a “flat” key.

Any help would be appreciated!

I think yes to the first point.

I think yes to the second point! It’s always good to make it easier to read.

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I see… even if the accidentals in the parts create more cautionaries?

Do not do this. If your piece is tonal, the notation conventions for tonal music must be followed. For one, this is no simplification at all for any literate musician, since they will associate a remote spelling with a corresponding remote tonal context – so you are actually making it harder for them to feel at the right place.

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Oh, okay. This is for a local community orchestra where my friends don’t necessarily know music theory, but I see your point.

All the more reason to not serve them the resulting intervals of diminished fourths (A flat to E natural and G flat to D natural). :slight_smile:

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Alright, so just to clarify: it’s not necessarily a bad thing if reflecting harmonies in parts creates more cautionary accidentals than if you were to respell them?

Not at all. The whole point of cautionary accidentals is to guide musicians through even mildly complicated lines. They are your friends, not annoyances to avoid.

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Okay, thank you for the advice!!

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I would leave the Oboe G# in m42, and F# in m43 (and the have cautionaries too) - not least because Ab to E and Gb to D looks ‘odd’.

Unequivocally YES. (If they were different, you may get all sorts of waste of time debates during rehearsals)

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Okay cool, if you don’t mind, I have one more quick question…

Is it a problem to mix sharps and flats on the same couple of systems if they accurately reflect the harmonies?

In this Violin II part, you have that Ab, and on the next system, you have an F# (the leading tone in the Gb7 chord is intentional, FWIW).

Here you show 6 Chords, but in your music I see 9 Bars. Not sure which chord in witch Bar intended is…

Oh, I forgot to remove those chord changes.

Not a problem at all.

I would urge you to study how the Greats notated their parts. Here are a couple of Wagnerian examples:
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Both simply reflect the harmony. Lots of accidentals are not a problem!

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Appreciated!

Oh, great. Now I get the urge to listen to Parsifal, just as I was about to go to sleep.
:unamused:

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