Page View/Galley View Diffent

[ghfagan51]

Sorry I can’t send a Dorico sample of this issue, but if I send the document it will show up one way or the other and not both. In page galley I have 2 dotted half notes tied together with a cresc. marking under both measures (3/4 meter). When I swicth to Page View the cresc. in only under the second measure (which is what I want). Why the difference between Page View and Galley View?

[Christian_R]

@ghfagan51

t if I send the document it will show up one way or the other and not both.

If you send the project we can switch between Page view and Galley view ourself

@ghfagan51

Why the difference between Page View and Galley View?

Difficult to tell without the project file.

Here more info on how to cut down your project:

@dspreadbury

4. Post a project, not a picture
If you are having a problem with Dorico, the fastest way to get the help you need is to post the project, or a part of it, and not to post a screenshot. If you post a picture, you will almost certainly find that the first person to respond to your thread asks you to post the project. You may be concerned that the musical content of your project will be judged, or stolen. While we cannot guarantee that this will not happen, because of the supportive nature of the forum, this is vanishingly unlikely. There may be copyright or confidentiality restrictions that prevent you from posting the whole project. That’s fine! It’s always better in any case to cut the project down to a smaller size to attach it, particularly because there is a 4MB file size limit on attachments.

To cut down your project, first do File > Save As to save your project under a new name, to avoid making unwanted changes to your working project. If the project contains multiple flows, delete all flows except for the one that exhibits the problem. If the project contains multiple players, delete all players except for the one that exhibits the problem. If the problem is isolated to a particular bar or passage, then use the Shift+B popover to remove all other bars (e.g. select a note or rest in the bar after the problem passage, type Shift+B and enter a huge negative number like -9999 to delete all of the remaining bars in the flow).

Once you have cut down the project to the minimum scope that reproduces the problem, in Play mode choose Play > Playback Template and reapply the default playback template, or choose Silence. This dramatically reduces the file size of the project after you have deleted most of its musical material, because it removes the saved audio engine state.

Finally, attach the Dorico project it to your post.

If you want to add a picture as well (perhaps annotated to show where the problem exists), then by all means do so. But if your problem relates to a specific situation you’re experiencing in your project, you are guaranteed to get a more helpful answer more quickly when you include a suitable project file to reproduce the problem.

[ghfagan51]

O.K. I am actually running into 2 issues on this same page. Issue #1 is that in Galley View you will notice the both measures 10 and 11 have a decresc. in the upper voices. When I swicth to Page view the decresc. is only under m. 11 (which is what I want). Why the difference?
Secondly, Refer to m. 2 in Trumpet. Notice that last 4 notes are beamed together. I want the last eighth note to stand alone, but when I select the last 8th note and right click and select “split beam” it actually now connects ALL the notes in that measure instead of breaking the beam on the last note.
Beaming Issue.dorico (494.3 KB)

[dan_kreider]

Regarding the dynamics: you need to differentiate between graphic changes and semantic changes.

When you move, lengthen, or adjust hairpins in Write mode, that’s a semantic change. The actual location of the attachment points is different. The dynamic actually begins and ends at a different place (which is also reflected in Playback, by the way)

When you move, lengthen, or adjust hairpins in Engrave mode, you are making no semantic changes, only modify its appearance. Try it, and you’ll see the attachment lines don’t move.

You need to set the hairpins properly in Write mode, so they start and end at the correct rhythmic location.

[Christian_R]

This is a really nice and clear explanation @dan_kreider !

[dan_kreider]

For the beaming, you need to look at Notation Options and set your defaults there for starters.

Look at Beam Grouping>Beams and Rests, and Beam Grouping>SImple time signatures without a half-bar.

If you need to force an un-beamed note, In this case you have to do it twice, since your Notation Option settings are different. Select the last note, j, “Make Unbeamed.”

But if you fix your Notation Options, you shouldn’t need to do this.

[Christian_R]

@ghfagan51

Secondly, Refer to m. 2 in Trumpet. Notice that last 4 notes are beamed together. I want the last eighth note to stand alone, but when I select the last 8th note and right click and select “split beam” it actually now connects ALL the notes in that measure instead of breaking the beam on the last note.

Adding to the useful suggestion above, as an alternative if you want to make a local adjustment, I suggest you first reset the (manual) beaming on that bar, and then your split beam will work:

[ghfagan51]

Christian,
Thanks so much for explaining the beaming issue. The video clip was most helpful. Have a great day.

[ghfagan51]

Dan,
Thanks so much for the excellent detail on the beaming issue. Your video illustration was very beneficial. Thanks again.

[ghfagan51]

Thanks for the info. on the hairpins. Your explanation made sense.