When extracting a part from a full score by placing the cue in the part and then exporting it, will the originally entered cue notes be removed?
Is there an option to check to include cues in the export settings?
If by extracting you mean Export Flow > Export Layouts as separate files and if you have entered the cues using the normal method (via the cue popover), I believe you also need to export the layouts that contain the original notes of the cues.
For example, if you want to export the Flute 1 part and there are Clarinet 1 cues in the flute part, you need to export both Flute 1 and Clarinet 1 for the cues to appear in the exported Flute part.
Then, should I export Flute 1 and Clarinet 1 together in one file? How can I combine them into one file? Is there no way to separate them individually with the cue included?
Not in one file, in two separate files it will work:
If you tick both, the Flute will be exported with the clarinet cues. If you export only the flute, cues wonât be exported.
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Iâll just add this, even though you probably already know: with Dorico, you normally donât need to extract/export partsâeverything is designed so that you can manage everything within a single document.
This is a fascinating corner I wasnât previously aware of - thanks for educating me!
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I didnât know this either, and IMO, itâs highly undesirable behaviour. If I adjust some detail in an individual part, say: a cautionary accidental, a better page turn, a spacing issue, whateverâŠ, I wouldnât expect to need to export all parts that might be cued in this part, to replace it with the improved new version. If this is a deliberate design choice, I really wonder what the reasoning is behind it. Otherwise, I hope itâll be fixed.
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In this thread, âexportâ refers to âexport flowsâ, which you donât actually need. Of course, exporting in print mode does not require the additional export of cued parts.
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I wasnât aware of this behavior either! I only discovered it by reading this thread and giving a try⊠If itâs so unknown, I suppose that itâs because exporting parts is rarely needed?
Oh yes, it was needed, at least in Sibelius version 1 until 3 (1992-2004). In 2005 dynamic parts were introduced.
Similar function became available to Finale in 2007.
Since those days extracting a part doesnât make a lot of senseâŠ
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Thanks for pointing that out. I donât think Iâve ever used Export Flow. But I still think itâs strange it would omit some cues.
If youâre exporting just a part layout, the players not assigned to that part layout wonât be exported, so any cues from their instruments wonât show up in the exported layout (because cues in Dorico reference real music that has to exist elsewhere in the project).
This seems to me like an Easter Egg of a workaround; to the best of my knowledge itâs never previously been discussed here.
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If I want to separate the parts, is there any other way besides flow in export?
Could you say more about what you are ultimately trying to accomplish? I think there is some confusion about âexportingâ [extracting] parts to a new file. There is no need to export parts (except in some rare circumstances for special needs) â all the parts generally stay in one file. What are you trying to do that is needed to export parts? Just print them as PDFs [graphics]? Or do you actually need to create a new separate file with a part that is disconnected from the original file?
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As mentioned earlier in this thread, itâs very rare to need to extract individual parts in Dorico. In a project, the parts are both dependent on the score (notes, rhythms, dynamics, articulations, number of bars, rehearsal marks, cues, etc.) and very independent (visibility of elements, note spelling, page size, note spacing, vertical spacing, paragraph styles, fingerings displayingâŠ). All of this can be managed in the Layout Options, or in the Properties Panels sometimes.
If you want to export the parts as separate PDFs (all of them or just one, or just a few), you can do so in Print Mode.
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I want to create a new file that is separate from the original file.
In that case, assuming that you are speaking about a .dorico file and not a .pdf, you must export the flow(s) in separate layout files, as I guess you were already doing, like described here.
Select all the parts if you want to make sure that all the cues are exported. Then, you can delete the files that you donât need.
Just make a duplicate of the file in the Finder/Explorer?
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I solved it using the method you mentioned.
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