Having trouble connecting notes in consecutive measures in Percussion with glissandos. This is a Mark Tree part and I want upward and downward slanting glissandos to connect all notes in 8 measures.
I feel your pain. I believe this thread has the current state of the art for notating mark tree:
Thanks so much for the reply. Just one more thing I have found about Dorico that you just can’t do. I can do it on Finale in 5 seconds. 5 line staff and all.
I’ve seen many requests for this function, and yet they still have not been updated. Please Steinberg/Dorico team, please implement this. It’s just simple, make the glissando available without connecting two notes.
I feel your pain, but please refrain from writing stuff like “it’s simple”… From a user point of view, it is simple. But consider that those lines in a percussion staff really do not mean the same thing that on a pitched staff — they do mean different instruments, mapped according to what you’ve set up in your kit.
So probably not simple to implement ![]()
What’s simple is to fake it with a pitched instrument on a pitched staff, and rename the instrument ![]()
Hey thanks for your response. OK, I understand that it may not be so “simple” but I am of course talking from a user point of view because I am a user, not a developer, and I suppose many of them do not have any insights about the backend.
With all due respect, being ordered not to use these words is just weird. If I were the developer, I would just probably say “I feel your pain. This is not so simple as it seems. We are not sure if this can be addressed quickly but we will keep checking” or something like this, or, if that is not so easy I would say “This is not so simple task to update, I am sorry.” I definitely do not ask what users can or cannot say.
If you create a second note and add gliss, it’s pretty simple to just go into engrave and hide that second note. Alternatively, you could just use the line editor to draw a gliss line (which does appear to connect to the next note by default) but then go into engrave and align/resize/rotate as you please. It takes a few seconds.
I think in general is important to bear in mind that Finale has 26 years on Dorico, so comparing the two by saying “Finale could do this and that” isn’t entirely fair. Finale had many years of development to maturity before being sent out to pasture.
For a 5th version of software less than 10 years young, I feel Dorico’s featureset, while will never be “complete,” has been developed at a staggering pace by comparison. I agree that a Mark Tree, 5-line staff, and gliss line could be made easier, but in due time such things surely will. Percussion notation has an incredible amount of specific nuances and user preferences (and many more unique instruments than most families), so I can understand that the team perhaps hasn’t prioritized mark tree notation in the 8 years of development, considering many other major requests. I look forward to seeing where the program goes in just the next few years - as a user since V3 the improvement has been exponential.
I understand. Unfortunately, people have so often said “Come on, it would be so easy!” and the like that this has become a sore point with this very small and hard-working development team. So the convention on this particular forum is that we, as users, do not presume how easy or difficult a given feature might be to program, and leave it to them to order their priorities.
This may sound better coming from Daniel himself (as he has stated in countless threads) than from fellow users trying to be defensive on their behalf. For that, my apologies.
My apologies too. It was kind of late when I read it (somewhere near 2 AM yesterday
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I did not mean to order you something. Just be aware that the devs read all the posts, and that each time a user says it’s easy to implement, a developer dies, as they say!
Yup, I often use that technique for Harp gliss, but the problem is that you cannot create a gliss between notes in the 5-line unpitched percussion staff. I can do this in a single-line staff, but it disappears and cannot be re-created in 5-line.
I also use the regular line editor sometimes, but the problem with this is that the line does not want to cross bar lines. So for example, when I want to draw a line to the first rhythmic position of the next bar, the gliss line does not reach the note, but just extends the space of the previous bar (the bar that the gliss starts from.)
Understood. Actually, my day job is not so far from this type of forum so I had some sort of philosophy that we gonna expect that the users do not understand (do not give a s**t) about the background of a product, and we do not convince them to understand as someone who delivers a professional service and product. So, yes, I feel the pain as well (I am sorry), but it was not aligned with my philosophy and could not help expressing it… ![]()

No problem at all. As I said above, I can sympathize with both sides (the user and the seller) and that was something I did not want to see, so… Also, please do not stick with the forum till 2 am (though I know that is the composer’s habit). ![]()
Hi there. Is that non-pitched 5-line percussion? I so, can you create a destination note in the next bar and extend the line to that note by crossing over the bar line?
Or?


I used a jazz ornament and extended it to the desired location.
Oops, sorry I was not calling the tool names correctly.
Yes, I was talking about the gliss type of jazz ornament in the Ornament tool, which I cannot extend between bars. It just makes unwanted space at the end of the bar as I extend the endpoint.
The Line tool Janus showed can be a solution so far (thanks for sharing that!), but I wish I could choose a regular gliss line for it (actually, it may solve the problem at all!)
Ah no, I am sorry again, I was simply missing the gliss bar line that is available under the tool!
I suspect the technical difficulty is that a 5 stave percussion staff is, in reality, a collection of different instruments and you cannot gliss across different instruments.
I think this is the best practical solution so far!
I know it’s not technically the gliss Dorico translates and I still have to manually add"gliss." text right? but nothing is perfect, and this looks good enough so that the player can easily understand, which is the most important part of notation software (I do not care about the playback quality haha.)
