Playback Tech not working correctly

For some reason adding a playback technique to a series of notes ends up only applying the tech to the first note. I’ve tried with both EW and BBC SO VST instruments. It’s only doing this in one place in the score. I’ve never seen this happen before and I don’t know how to fix it. The expression maps I’m using work fine in other projects and have not changed for this one.

In this screenshot at bar 16 I’ve applied a pizz. playback tech., you see the indicator where the tech ends.

But in the play mode window you can see where the playback technique is not applied to all the notes indicated in the write mode, only the first note.

I’ve stripped out all the other instruments except for the string section, here’s a Dorico file to examine.

HELP! (please!)

I can’t open your project at the moment (working on another), but if you delete the pizz, select only the initial D of the measure and apply the technique, does that solve it?

pizz, spicc etc. are directional techniques, meaning, you set it on the initial note and it stays active until ord, nat., arco or another mutually exclusive technique is active. In your case above, assuming your mutual exclusions are correct, the spicc should cancel the pizz.

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The pizz. technique does not get canceled by the following playback technique. It’s applied only to the note it starts on and then the rest of the notes following it go back to natural. That’s why I posted this (if you look at the screenshot from play mode you can see this is true).

I’ve only been using dorico for a year and a half, so maybe there’s something different before version 5 but this has always been the behavior. There’s a handle that appears to determine the range of notes for the playback technique to be applied. That usually works just fine. But for some reason something has gone wrong in this particular case. The rest of the notes that have various playback techniques work as expected, but there’s something wrong with these couple of bars.

I’ve seen this happen a few times with latest update of version 6 and I ended up having to delete then re-input the notes again. That’s a change from previous versions, that’s why I’m posting this. It seems to me to be a bug.

I have both EWQLSO and BBC SO Discover, so I tried your file.

I was able to see the same problem as you, on Win10 Dorico Pro 6.1.10. Checked many things e.g., “pizz” playing technique seems correctly set as “direction”, didn’t see anything unusual in the exp-map. Exclusion rule looks ok to me (I usually mess this up!)

I tried your file with Dorico 4 and Dorico 5 as well, showing the same problem. However it may still be a new Dorico 6 bug, perhaps on note entry on those mystery sixteenth notes.

Interesting that audio playback of your file is correct (heard 16 pizz notes as well as legato of the previous and spicc that follows). So… looks like a display bug?

the playback is correct if you don’t start playback directly on the pizz note – if you do, it doesn’t work. Curiously when I tried redoing this with a new section violins1 and my own map for the BBC Core, the pizz stops after one note wherever you start playback. I thought maybe there was some strange playback override but I reset that and it still doesn’t work. Very puzzling at the moment.

UPDATE
I established a few more things — primarily that it seems to be the particular note sequence which is the problem. If the pizz bar is replaced by different semiquavers chosen at random, the problem goes away. However it doesn’t also seem to be specific pitches as inverse or reverse the pitches does not clear it. It is also not note duration-specific as replacing the semiquavers by quavers or demisemiquavers still gives the problem

It is clearly not library or score specific as pasting these notes into a new score using NP as a test, the same happens. I’ve never seen anything like this and the fact it seems to be a one off with these particular notes would seem to confirm.

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