“Easy-peasy,” fortunately (actually, by design!), to enter from nothing:
In your case, since you already have the tied eighths, you just shorten it to an eighth first, then o followed by 6 to turn it into a quarter
Pianists never get confused, lose count, or get thrown off. (Now singers…) 
Lol so you’re saying that singers are always worse readers so I should always make it easier for them over making it easier to the pianist?
I actually really like Mark’s approach. Notating the explicit |—2—| has the advantage of “signaling loudly” the shift in metrical feel, and something like the “straight ♫” confirms it.
(That was a “total JK”)
Unfortunately that doesn’t work, it still shows as a tied eighth. I think it is unable to do it with duplets.
I forgot all about your (hidden) duplets in the 12/8 bar — sorry! Let me play around a bit… 
I’m not sure using different bars/time signatures in different parts is such a good idea. You don’t want to waste time in rehearsal when the conductor says ‘let’s start at the pick-up for bar x’, and half the orchestra has no pick-up bar at all.
I’d use either a duplet at the end of the 12/8, then a TS change to 4/4 in the next bar, or insert a change to 4/4 with a ¼ pickup right on the last beat (=the 10th quaver) of the 12/8, including a double bar for good measure (pun unintended). Like you apparently did in the example in → this thread:
But isn’t this just for voice and piano? Wouldn’t both performers be seeing the score, @ShacharHarshuv?
Okay! The trick is to make beats 3–4 in the voice be a |—4:6—| tuplet instead of two x 2:3:
That will let you get the syncopated quarter note.
But the voice part will have a pickup where the piano wouldn’t have anyway, no matter what meter changes I introduce. Also - in that case you still have 4 beats in both parts, it’s just the subdivision that changes. (So you can say stuff like “let’s start from the 3 of bar x”)
But isn’t this just for voice and piano? Wouldn’t both performers be seeing the score,
Yes, it’s just voice and piano, but also want to give the performers the option to read only from a vocal line (to save on paper and page flips). That’s another reason why I want it to make sense from the singer’s perspective, so keep it straight when it straight. If I’d write duplets, it would look like a mistake from the perspective of the singer who doesn’t know about the consideration about the piano.
I’m wondering if interchangeable time sigs would be helpful here. As in 4/4=12/8. It seems like that might signal the metrical tension to the singer. Hmm…
So if I enter (in Mac OS):
I get:
Any good?
And to explicitly show 12/8 in the next measure, enter it (with OPT + ENTER) then engage End Interchangeable in the Properties Panel.
Hello everyone,
The example shown here is exactly what I want to do. But when I try to do the same thing, I can’t! Could you explain again how to do it? Thanks a lot! Best L
Which part doesn’t work for you, @Laurent_Bomont: entering the interchangable time sig or cancelling it?
Can you upload your project file for us to check it out?
Hi juddanby
My goal here is to have a 12/8 measure with a 4/4 measure at the same time. I want to have the same tempo for ternary time and binary time. In other words, I want to write two eighth notes in 4/4 = 3 eighth notes in 12/8. I could write everything in ternary time, but (it’s in the rest of the score) I’d have to write duplets.
I have to explain that I want the three lower parts in 4/4 of course.
Hello everyone,
I’m not sure if I’ve made myself clear. I want to have at the same time a measure in 12/8 and underneath, a measure in 4/4 in order to have the same number of beats but of course, a three eight beat in 12/8 whereas I would have a two eight beat in 4/4. This means that the bar lines are in the same place.
I want the first and second bars of this example to be played at the same time, with the first line in 12/8 and the second in 4/4. Sorry if I’m a bit redundant, but I want to make sure I’m understood… 
Ma version en français sur le groupe FB :
" j’explique en français comme ça me vient :
