Possible to change a single line percussion staff to a 5 line staff?

Even in a new BBCSO project?
BBCSO bass drum.dorico (472.3 KB)

Dear John,
If I use your file as is, which is one bass drum instrument alone, no kit, one line… I hear the sounds when I input them with the keyboard. As soon as I combine the bass drum into a kit and choose the 5-line-view as the OP did, I no longer can hear the sound while I enter notes with the keyboard. Strange.

Done!

Hi John,

Yes, I updated to the latest version, and the problem still persists.

M

I’m not really sure what we should do here. If you make a percussion kit from instruments that all have different percussion maps and display them on a 5-line staff, when you press a note on your MIDI keyboard then that note might appear in more than one percussion map - how would Dorico know which one you want?
One thing that doesn’t seem to be working is if you set the Preferences to input with ‘Use staff position’ then I don’t think it’s auditioning correctly at that point. Although if you have more than one drum/instrument that uses that line, or they have different techniques then this still might not be ideal.

Might be best to do the note entry when they are single staves/players with their own routing and then combine them into a 5-line staff later?

1 Like

In any case, this sounds more than reasonable!

1 Like

It literally disappeared from my Dorico. I do not see Percussion at all.

That menu will only show “Percussion” as an option if you have a percussion instrument added in your setup first.

1 Like

Hi dspreadbury,
I am an experienced Finale user and just moved to Dorico (5.1). I might be with Finale for too long as I cannot replicate the instructions you gave to Mark. I would like to add several unpitched instruments on a standard 5-line stave and followed the instructions, however I cannot find ‘Players’ menu, let alone ‘Percussion’ and then the 'Drum Set 5-line staff as shown on your snapshot. Is there a missing step? Thanks -

In layout options, you should find a „percussion“ category.

1 Like

Hello,

I’ve read and tried the steps suggested to Mark above. I have tried combining kits to get to the ‘5-line staff’ but nothing happens when I click on it. On point #4 (to Mark) it reads, “choose the Percussion sub-category, and you should now see the name of the player shown there, allowing you to choose the five-line percussion presentation type.”

However, I can’t find how it ‘allows’ me to choose the five-line percussion presentation type. Is there a video where you can see the steps slowly executed?

Thanks very much!

Tony

Hi @tony.labounty, you will find all informations in this very deep Video tutorial. You can visualise the chapter in YouTube, so you can jump to the desired chapter, but I suggest to study the whole video:

From your text I am not sure what your current setup situation is. If you upload here your Dorico project, describing what your final result should be, I am sure someone will give you precise advices.

1 Like

Hi Christian! Very helpful (video) - thank you!

I think I’m starting to get it. I’ll digest the video more and more until then.

Thanks again!
Tony

1 Like

Shouldn’t the “Percussion” section in Layout Options actually be called “Percussion Kits”? If not, can someone explain to me why not? I may not be understanding this correctly, but the “Percussion” section only shows up in the dialog if you have a “kit”, but not if you have only percussion “instruments” not in a kit. I find this very confusing to talk about with others when I’m trying to help them set up the look of their score and parts.

Call it whatever you want; Dorico is adaptable.