Hello, I can’t find a solution for this problem and have been searching for a while. This cross staff beam should be in the middle between the two piano systems:
But when I do this, it looks like that:
So the cross staff notes in the left hand are on the wrong side of the stem and I can’t for the life of me figure out how to switch the to the other side. I’m also confused why that happens, usually they are placed on the right side when the cross staff beam is placed in the middle?
Surely there must be a way to fix this?
Additionally, as you see, the end of the first beam looks ugly now, there is a black line missing to end the three beams of the 32th notes. How can I fix that?
Have you tried making the beam centered? That said though, Dorico doesn’t currently allow stems to go in both directions either side of a beam at the same position, so that initial chord can’t have notes both above and below the centered beam automatically.
You can create that effect manually but it’ll probably involve separate voices etc.
I tried to force centered beaming, but it didn’t change anything. I would be fine with the top two notes in the first chord being in the wrong direction, but if I switch the whole thing, the first two notes of the triplet are in wrong direction too, and that looks just too ugly - also it doesn’t make any sense?!
Do you know why the line of the last note in the triplet doesn’t go to the top of the three bars and how to fix this?
Because dragging the beam upwards/downwards isn’t the same as making it “be” a centered beam. Try putting the two bottom notes that would otherwise share a stem with the up-stem chords on the downbeats in a separate voice.
You can flip the stems of individual notes within centered beams to have control over which notes are above and which below the centered beam, you can use the Edit > Notations > Stems menu.
I don’t know why, but the “force centered beam” function just doesn’t change anything for me, I tried all possible directions. Also I’m really confused about this problem, I mean I get the problem with a chord spread on two systems, but I don’t see why Dorico should not adjust the single notes in the triplet - usually, it does make it right when a cross staff beam is in the middle.
Anyway, I’ve spent far too much time on this one bar, now I just did this as a solution - it’s still not as I would wish it to be, but at least it’s less ugly
Did you search for my multiple posts over time on ‘double headed notes’? Dorico just doesn’t support it. As @Lillie_Harris confirms. Do a search. There you will find some immensely clever workaround solutions (not from me!). Personally as I have a lot of these to set, the workarounds are too time consuming and fiddly for me, but they do exist.
I’d like to see it supported as a feature request.
I had the same issue with a piece I’m currently writing in version 5.1.60. The work is for voice and piano. I could not get the notes in the piano to cross staff properly in the full score, but some how when I randomly clicked the piano part it was all there automatically (I do not intent to use that part but then that means I will have to use the piano PART to create custom full score with the voice attached which is jarring because I should not have to do that.) Why is that?
Full Score:
It looks like the issue might be that you’ve been editing the stem directions of the notes in the full score layout with Set local properties in the toolbar to the Properties window set to Locally, which means that the changes made in the full score aren’t reflected in the part. (Or possibly you made the edits in the part, and likewise those edits aren’t reflected in the score.)
Try selecting those notes in the full score and doing Remove Forced Stem. The beams should automatically be repositioned between the staves.
Thank you so much for that tid bit. This is really interesting because all i have been doing is inputting notes in the software. I have no idea how a forced stem feature occurred automatically because it was that way when i first typed all the notes in and even redid the note input and got that result. So I am not sure how that happened. I have never worked on or touched the part, I only work in full score and it was by happenstance i went into the part when everything was finished and saw what I wanted crossbeam-wise there. So I was indeed puzzled. Nevertheless, thank you so much for this resolution.
