I hope someone can help me with this. I’m writing an organ piece in 15 parts. Months ago, I imported this project from Finale, where it consisted of 15 separate files, into one Dorico project with 15 flows, following al instructions. Now I’m finishing the piece, but the one problem I can’t solve is this: Dorico gave every part to another player: organ 1, organ 2 etc. So now I want to get rid of these numbers, because the 15 parts are obiously for one instrument and 1 player.
When you import XML, there’s an option to merge the players with the existing ones, or create new ones.
Ideally, you would have wanted to merge the players, so that each piece goes into the same Player, rather than creating a new Player for each Flow.
From your picture, it looks like the Organ player you’ve selected isn’t used in the first 10 Flows, at least.
The ‘best practice’ and tidiest thing would be to select all the Flows, then turn on one of the Organs, so that it appears in every Flow. You might want to temporarily change its name to something unique, just to make sure it’s the right one. Then paste the music from the ‘other’ Organ in each flow to that one. You can then delete all the other Organs.
Otherwise, there are two ways to turn off numbering.
Give each Staff Label a unique name (e.g. by using Spaces, which won’t affect the position). But you’ll have to give each one a unique name…
Put each Player in its own Group.
Remember that you need to change the name of the Instrument, not the Player. It looks like you’re on version 5, so you’ll need to click on the little > next to the Player name to reveal the instrument, and then Edit the name from there. (In Version 6, you can just double click on the staff label in the score.)
It took some time, but I was able to realise your first and best solution.
I also came a step closer to understanding how some functions in Dorico work… after 30 years of Finale, it’s quite a challenge…
Only, why does Dorico do such strange things now? Before my intervention of today, the spacing between the staffs was perfect.
(see screenshot for current situation).
I always read that Dorico takes care of these things automatically; but as you can see on the right, I haven’t changed anything manually in these pages 34 and 35.
I have these problems regularly; probably there’s some principle that I don’t understand properly…
indeed, red squares popped up. So I did a reset layout of the staff spacing,
but now I have this (see screenshot)
for example, in p. 9 (on the right hand) there are exaggerated distances between staves. I removed the overrides for this page, but that didn’t changed anything.
Can you upload the project? Or let us know the Vertical Justification percentage values in Layout options? I suspect you probably don’t want any justification of the staves, only the systems?
You’re sure there’s nothing on that page that might be affecting the spacing?
(While you’re in Layout Options: I suspect that the Organist will know it’s an Organ staff after the first page… )
I’m curious about the settings as well. My understanding is that Dorico never increases the inter-staff distance in a multi-staff instrument. This is definitely true for piano, and in some quick testing it appears to be the case for 3-staff organ as well. So I wonder what in this score is allowing that third staff to be moved further away from the other two.
It’ll be to do with the thresholds for justification in Layout Options > Vertical Spacing > Vertical Justification, which are, by default, 60% for justifying the distances between staves and systems (including the gap between the lower manual staff and the pedals staff) and 80% for justifying the distances only between systems.
Look at the page fullness indicators at the bottoms of these two pages; the left page is just above the 80% threshold and the right page is fractionally below the 80% threshold.
Unless I’m misunderstanding, this means that justification should kick in at 10% and should always include both staves and systems.
On three different pages, with different justification, the staff distances within the organ didn’t change – only the distance between systems changed.
This is the behavior I would expect. Am I missing something?
We already know that the OP is working with imported MusicXML.
Try importing an Organ piece in from another program and you may well find, as I’ve done, that Dorico actually imports one instrument for the manuals and another for the pedals.
Even if, as I’ve done here, you drag the pedals instrument from the second player to the first player, Dorico treats it as a separate instrument for justification purposes.
Ah, thanks, I thought it might be something like that. That’s why my comment referred to multi-staff instruments and a 3-staff organ. Yes, if these imported as separate players or instruments, I would expect the spacing that the OP has.
Edit: Seems like a solution would be turning the first organ into a 3-staff organ, and then copying the music from the second instrument into the third staff of the first instrument.
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