It’a part of a bigband like horn section for a slow blues in the key of C-major. Beat is 4/4 with each quarter note being three eight-notes. i.e 12/8 the quarter note speed beat is about 67 bpm. Counting the beat - 123, 223, 323, 423. (in my mind lols)
First tuplet is 6 16:nth notes, a tie between fourth & fifth note.
Second tuplet is 2 eighth notes and 2 sixteenth notes
Third tuplet is 2 sixteenth notes and a quarter note tied to the second sixteenth nore
Fourth tuplet is simply 1 quarter note tided to to the quarter note in the third tupletI have tried every thing I can think of but I can’t get to like to look like I want.
I have managed ONCE to get the above - wich is what I wanted - but I cant for the life of me remember how I did it. Tuplet no 3 is so far a no go - when I try to enter it - it changes the look of tuplet number 2.
I really need step by step instruction on this one.
There are a few different ways to do this, depending on your input configuration. I use duration before pitch. One thing to keep in mind is that if you use the left/right arrow keys anywhere between steps 4 and 9, tuplet mode will turn off; otherwise, it’s sticky, and everything you enter will (correctly) be a tuplet.
Note that all three of your tuplets are just three 8th notes in the space of 2; the fact that some of the notes are 16th notes doesn’t matter.
Start note entry
Select the eighth note duration
Open the tuplet popover with ; and hit Enter; now you’re in tuplet mode
Select the 16th note duration and enter the first three notes (A C D)
Type O (letter O) to start Force Duration
Enter the two tied D’s
Type O again to end Force Duration
Enter the remaining notes through beat 3
Type Shift+; to turn off tuplet mode
Enter the tie and the final D quarter note on beat 4
In this animation, you can’t see me turning Force Duration on/off, or turning tuplet mode off.
You’ve only shown us one bar – would it make more sense to set the meter to 12/8 and then not have to use tuplets?
I could be argued I guess that even if the second sixteenth note at the third tuplet became an eight note it doesn’t sonically or rythmically matter since all the D-notes are tied.
As for your “statement/question” about pitch & duration - I this is what I have in Dorico preferenses - se below:
That sounds as it’s the same preference for both of us…?? As regards your question about setting time to 12/8 instead of 4/4 - I’m clueless. Our old pianoplayer who did the transcription about 4 decades ago did not specify it on any of his handwritten scores. However the part named E that starts with this bar - I have been having trouble with - there Folke has amended below the stave - se the picture below:
He has written 12/8 - maybe he thought that would be easier somehow if you thought about it as 12/8 instead of 4/4 - or that it would easier to notate/scribe it in 12/8. I just dont know. Part E should be the beginning of that “bigband hornsoli section” - quite complicated for a person like me - lols.
Anyway many thanks for your patience and help - you take care, stay safe & havea great day
It looks like you may have turned off tuplet mode too soon – you need to get all the way through the third beat (16th C, 16th D tied to quarter D) and then turn it off.
Thanks a million once more - I can’t quite believe it - lols - I have suceeded finally
You were right about the tuplet turning of too early - I didn’t do that on purpose - at least I dont think so - but who knows - lols. What I did this time was, I had to first delete the notes that didn’t format the way I wanted to - then re-engage tuplet property.
Then also in Dorico it seems like you have to - if you want to tie two notes together - you first input the first note, then click T for tie and then enter the second note. It was just the other way around in Finale.
Thanks again for all your help - woulndn’t have been able to do it without - but I learned a lot & hopefully I wont be floundering along quite as much.
Obviously this is three “triplets” and tied quarter note at the end.
1:st tuplet/beat is easy not to play necesarily - (1) (2) (3) these are 8.th notes making sounds. dige dage -ge the dash = tie
2:nd tuplet/beat - is where it gets advanced - (2) (2) (3) - 8:th notes again. the first triplet with a bracket on top and slulr didli daa doge
The didli thing mus be a triplet on the first eight-note of the of the second beat in the tuplet - that is if you count the rytm of the as: (1)23 (2)23 (3)23 (4)23 - aka 12/8 - numers in parentheses are of course the quarter note beats.
3:rd Tuplet is the same as the second tuplet execpt it ends with an eight note. The kicker is - for me any way lol - is it possible to make Dorico fornat the tuplet in this way
Puh now my mind is turning to mush - I have rest a while
No need to panic. These are simply nested tuplets (you can create a new tuplet inside an existing one). Here the outer tuplets are 3:2e and the nested ones are 3:2x (the x means semiquavers)…
