Program Selector has become hard to navigate

[shirakumon]

I use external synths for most of my music production and I therefore rely heavily on the program selector inside the inspector of Cubase.

1. Create a rack instrument track of an external synth
2. Create a MIDI track and connect it to the external synth rack instrument
3. While the MIDI track is selected, open up the program selector inside the inspector
4. As soon as you click on any of the programs, the list is reset and you’re being sent to the topmost position of the list with all groups opened up

I can still use the program selector, but I usually use the arrow keys to go through all the programs and try them out. With this current situation, it’s now impossible to do that and it greatly hinders my workflow. I am restricted to having to use my mouse only, and every time the list resets, I have to scroll back to where I was to select the next program inside the list. These program lists are very long so this is quite unpleasant to deal with. This bug has been present since Cubase 13. I use Cubase Pro.

[Stylemixer]

I have the same problem. Testing the different sounds has become almost impossible

[SlowBro]

Same issue here. The convenience of working with external synths through the program selector was one of my main draws to Cubase and it has become really frustrating to use.

[snplmn]

Same here, this is crucial to my workflow and needs to be fixed.

[Midee]

This is seriously keeping me from upgrading to 13. Please fix this.

[catsonmars]

Agreed, this bug really needs fixing. I tested today and it’s basically impossible to navigate patches on an external synth now. I switched to Cubase FOR this functionality and now it’s completely broken, rendering 4 different synths in my studio essentially useless. Do I need to switch to DP now?

[cosmicgem]

Please, please fix this. I’ve recommended Cubase to many people for the patch selector alone, and I cannot recommend it anymore if this stays how it is.

[Jorge_Ruiz]

Up/down arrows (now also cursor keys as of 13.0.20) for navigating through preset lists don't work

Ok, please @Fabio_B check this, this is new in 13.0.20: navigating presets with cursor up/down keys is broken now. It kind of retriggers the whole preset list each time a cursor key is pressed, so it jumps to the first preset. You can try with any of the Full Bucket free VST3s. It also affects the preset selector in the Inspector, as you can see at the end of the attached video (which is basically me clicking on the cursor down key like crazy…) [oxid]

[Mike_O_Connell]

Hi I have found the same issue when using my Juno-X, used to work like in dream in C12 Pro. I hope it can be sorted soon otherwise I will go back to using C12 Pro.

[mellorine]

I recently purchased Cubase Pro 13, and have deliberately downgraded to version 13.0.10 to avoid this issue. I hope I’ll be able to comfortably update my version of Cubase sometime in the near future.

[Midee]

So this applies to plugin presets as well?

[Vectordrive]

Crucial to my workflow as well. Will not be upgrading until this is addressed.

[cc0]

Yep same here, this works fine in cubase 12, midi patch selection in v13 completely kills a creative workflow, it’s really really frustrating to use as it is, things I noticed that would be nice if there were fixed.

1. Be able to use the arrow keys up and down like before to switch midi patches
2. Fix bug that when you select a patch that it auto expands all multi patch groups, it should remember the current vertical scroll position after selecting a patch and have it highlighted and only the selected patch multi group to remain open.
3. Fix bug that when you select a patch it jumps to the top of the list of midi patches list.
4. Display patch number next to patch name, as some people like me remember patch numbers better than names.

[theMidiTamer]

I’m reporting an issue which is related to the Program Selector and has to do with navigation.

While in Cubase 12 I had no problems with it, in Cubase 13 the drop-down menu width is now narrower and the result is that I can’t read the full name of patches that have a long name. There’s no horizontal scroll bar avaiable, but I think the optimal solution would be the drop-down menu width to accomodate the width of the longest Program name available in the menu.

To add some context, I’m using harware external instruments with Cubase Patch Scripts.

To answer to the other posts: navigation of the menu with arrow keys is possible on my end, and it istantly let you audition the selected Program.