I worked on some ride cymbal variations of a drum beat. I practiced with the metronome of the TD50x at 130 bpm. When I felt ready to record, I started a new project. I imported a drum setup from a previous project and deleted everything as I just wanted a template with the routing.
All set, I pressed record for the midi track and noticed that after 2 measure the tempo dropped it seemed. I started over and the same thing, but it was consistent after that and so I recorded my variations. I stopped and listened and it sounded kind of slow. While playing back it seemed kind of slow. I listened and played along with the TD50 metronome and I thought maybe I recorded at half speed by mistake. I increased tempo and realized no that would be way too fast. It definitely indicates the tempo is 130bpm. I played and counted measure for a minute and only got 120bpm.
A curious thing was the little VAD box at the upper left. I think it has something to do wtiht the problem. I canât delete or change its size. I went to look at the song I used as a template and its tempo is 120bpm. So what is going on?
I donât think you understood the problem or I didnât explain it clearly enough. I wasnât trying to sync anything, It is just more convenient to practice with the TD50 click as it is just start and stop, not having to rewind a track,
I thenrecorded with the cubase 13 click set at and showing at 130bpm. I counted beats for one minute and it was only 120bpm. In 4/4, the difference is (130x4=520) versus (120X4=480), a difference of 40 16th notes. in one minute.
Different metronomes might differ by 1bpm, likely less.
When I press record, the 2 measure countdown is faster and then drops before stabilizing, as I said. Cubase is stuck in some memory of the template from which it was derived apparently as that was 120bpm, and there is some remnant that wonât remove as I said.
One thing I looked forward to in C13 was that I could load a drumset with a routing, which I couldnât do with C8.5, it was pointed out, where each input and output of each drum had to be individually reset with every song.
If Iâve explained too much, summing, With the click in Cubase set at 130, it appears to click at that tempo for 2 count in measures and then drop to 120 and record.
Looks musical to me⌠It seems that it adopted the time of the tempate it came from, which was derived from a project wtich tracks set to 120bpm. When I open a template that are tracks to delete. So my question is, Since I have the correct routing here, how do I make a template with empty tracks? It seems I have delted tracks and tried then save as a template but then tracks are back when opened so I must be doing something wrong. Since this track and dupe were recorded at 120 not 130, it doesnât have the right feel and I will probably delete and redo when C13 plays the correct tempo.
Ys, thatâs why I want a template with no midi files, I think I used this as a starting point as it had the desired drum routing. I then saved under a new name so I wouldnât ruin what is there, as I then deleted all the audio and midi and extra tracks. Then I recorded and had the problem.
I think I had another template, named something like roland VAD that was initially showing in the hub when I went to start a new project, but I donât know where that is and probably has data on tracks.
I just did an experiment⌠I found this other âVAD templateâ that I was going to use as a template. I dleted anything that was on the tracks. I checked the routing and then I saved as a new name Roland DAV template. It was showing 120bpm in the box at the bottom. I changed to 130 and then pressed record,. I just tapped along. After the 2 measures before record started there was a definite drop in tempo. I tired putting faster tempos in the box, but no matter what it was, the tempo always dropped when actual record started. I then wetn to 120, the original and that dropped too. Going to 100bpm, tempo drops. No matter what the tempo is , when count off is finished the tempo drops noticeably. So you canât really play in time at the beginning of the recording.
With 8.5, I had the punch in problem where it would record during the countdown, but at least it was the same tempo.
It was 5/4 because I was creating a project that was for some exercise patterns for the drums there.
So now I have a fresh template saved for the VAD, in 4/4, routing as desired. No audio or midi parts nor data. I set temp at 120bpm and saved. If I press play. and tap along, it is regular tempo no change. If I start over and press to record, and tap, as soon as the count in is done, there is still an immediate drop in tempo. How do I tell if the tempo track is involved? It is not open, but if it was, it wouldnât show the tempo before the first measure would it? .
It doesnât matter if I set the tempo to 150 or 60, there is always a slowdown after the countdown, in record.
@robirdman1 Have you tried disabling the Tempo Track to rule out it causing any issues? Have you tried starting Cubase in Safe Mode with preferences disabled?
So I had Steinberg tech help, and he created a simple project and it didnât have the problem. Said that it sounds like a different click and though I have no plug-ins, said itâs not on the C drive but the big H drive, maybe too big. it was not a cubase problem maybe Windows driver problem and I should ask Roland.
I will not be available between 10-11am as Iâm out putting birdseed in the feeders.
Oh, wait, you mean âRolandâ, not âRoland.â Sorry, my misunderstanding.
P.S. Iâve noticed things with the click track where I have to click on the icon in Control Room to make it work, etc. All kinds of things to tweak to get it right sometimes.
So Roland told me to turn off connections between midi rcv/trs and it made no difference naturally. They said to try a free software to see how that worked.
