Properties pane as a floating palette

Hi,

The original design of the Dorico UI cleverly put the Properties pane under the score.

After the Key Editor has been added to the same pane, the Properties pane is no longer always available. One has to constantly switch from the editors.

I would find more comfortable if the Properties pane was transformed into a floating palette. Something that can be moved next to the area where one is working, reducing the mouse movement.

Paolo

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I’m thrilled that you have requested this @Paolo_T

I’ve mentioned floating palettes in various posts for several years without any reaction, which made be think that I was the only one who finds the Dorico workspace less than flexible. At times I open up another Dorico window and tuck the part I don’t use off the screen to provide something like a floating palette. Don’t know why I haven’t tried that with the Properties panel. Will now.

Well I just tried it and it seems to work perfectly because one can collapse the entire Dorico window as a standalone properties panel. Perhaps this was envisioned by the designers. One could have as many versions of the Properties panels as one wants set to different search terms, perhaps. I will experiment today with this.

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That is a really great idea.

I wonder if there is a limitation in the Qt Framework that makes this hard to do? I don’t know.

If you’re working on a large-scale project, I wouldn’t recommend creating multiple project windows onto the same project for the purposes of showing only one of the panels. For every window you have open, Dorico has to update the music when you make an edit, and on larger projects you will start to feel this in an overall slower response time.

We don’t have any current plans to make it possible to “tear off” any of Dorico’s panels, though we are not in the business of ruling things out for all time (unless they’re ideas with absolutely no merit, which is certainly not the case here).

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Thanks @Andro I can now position my source material directly under as well as over my main window without properties panel ever intervening. However, the extra properties panel won’t change mode along with the main window. This isn’t a big issue for me but that would depend on one’s working style. But I am trying out two extra properties panels, one for each mode, parked on my second monitor.

Thank you for considering this @dspreadbury. I haven’t noticed any degradation in performance, but this project is not large.

there are keyboard shortcuts for the panels, aren’t there? If not, perhaps a script is possible.

As a bit of neat freak I personally have never been a fan of floating panels, they tend to pile on and look like clutter for my tastes. However I do think of some software examples that use integrated non-floating panels but have a little more flexibility as to how you can place them. I don’t currently have it open but I believe Cubase allows you to move & configure individual panels to taste while still keeping them integrated IIRC.

I also like how Adobe’s products treats this - their software comes with integrated panels which can be moved around and set side-by-side/above-and-below if needed, but there’s a little ‘hamburger’ icon allowing you to break them out into floating panels if you so desire :wink:

I generally like the Dorico layout, it’s very clean allowing me to focus, but I understand this issue when switching between the inspector panel and key editor, it comes up for me often too where I wish I could view them simultaneously.

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You can at the least assign a key command to the Properties panel.

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True, but since then you would have to use the mouse for clicking around, I don’t know if it is really worth assigning it.

Paolo