PSU concerns with new PC

I’m replacing my old Dell Optiplex 9010 with a new Lenovo Thinkbox Neo 50T. Huge upgrade as far as the processor and ram but I just discovered that the Thinkbox has a 180W PSU. That seems quite weak - am I going to have issues running Cubase 15? I’m a hobbyist, I use Cubase, occasionally Reaper, I use a Focusrite 2i2 and a few USB devices (but I use a powered hub for most). I’m usually around 20 or so tracks with some Kontakt instruments, SD3, FX inserts with comps, delays, etc…. Other than UI no special graphics needed.

When I purchased the new Lenovo I didn’t even think to look at the PSU. I’m hoping it’s enough to do what I need to do. If not I’ll have to return it an build my own box.

Here is link to it - Amazon.com: Lenovo ThinkCentre Neo 50T Tower Computer - Intel Core i9-12900K, 64GB Ram, 2TB NVMe SSD, HDMI, VGA, USB Type-C, Card Reader, Wi-FI/BT Adapter, Gen 5 Desktop, Windows 11 Pro : Electronics

Thanks for any thoughts on this. :slight_smile:

Daf

180 sounds very low. I’d never buy an off the shelf PC for Audio work but I’m guessing it will be ok, as long as you’re not wanting to put a graphics card in and plug in a huge amount of usb powered peripherals.

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It does sound low! I’m a little concerned about it. I may cancel and build my own. I generally do for my graphics PCs - since music is such a hobby I thought I would just get a pre-built this time.

There are 3 or more versions with different power supplies. The 180w is the i3 version. The link from amazone is the i9 version.

Which do you really have?

I think it is an error on amazon. Or the i9 is wrong or the PSU specs. The i7 version already has a 310W supply.

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180W is nonsense with this processor. It means they power-cap it to limit its peak performance. A somewhat cheaper CPU in this case would do the same. Sorry to say that selling an unlocked gamer CPU with this PSU is indeed a bad design decision, a borderline shameful misleading tourist trap…

All that said you should be OK as long as you do not add anything in the PCIe slots, certainly not a big GPU card.

CB should be able to run smoothly but you just overpaid for a Ferrari engine bolted in a Kia chassis.

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I bought the linked PC. These are the specs it lists on that page…

DVD Drive: NONE
Form Factor: Tower
OS: Windows 11 Pro
Processor: Intel Core i9-12900K 16-Core (8 Performance- Cores: 3.20 GHz- 5.20 GHz) + (8 Efficient- Cores: 2.40GHz- 3.90GHz)
CPU Speed: 3.20 GHz - 5.20 GHz
Cache: 30MB
RAM: DDR5 4800MHz
Max Supported RAM: 64GB
Additional Storage Slot: 1x 3.5" HDD
Graphics: Intel UHD Graphics 770
Video Ports: 1x DisplayPort 1.4a (HBR2), 1x VGA, 1x HDMI 2.1 TMDS
Card Reader: 3-in-1 card reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC)
Front Ports: 4x USB 3.2 (5 Gbps),1x USB-C 3.2 Gen 1 (support data transfer and 5V 3A charging)
Rear Ports: 4x USB 2.0
USB Wi-Fi: 802.11ax Wireless, Bluetooth: 5.3
Ethernet: RJ45 (Gigabit)
Audio: 1x Universal Audio/ Headset, 1x Microphone, 1x Audio Out
Speaker: 1W
Power Supply: 180 Watts
Includes: USB Keyboard / Mouse, USB Wifi Adapter, Power Cable

Agreed with Vinark, it must be a documentation error! Lenovo knows better than doing such nonsense.

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I am expecting a +400W to be in there. I would not worry beforehand. Just make sure you really get an i9 and not i3.

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Also the price will be some indication. What did you pay?

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It was $1200 USD.

I hope it is a documentation error. I totally agree that 180W is way too low.

I’ll get it Wednesday - should be printed on the PSU label.

Thanks!

Yes that is the i9 price. Great machine! Do let us know!

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I will - thanks for all the replies. I feel a little better about it. :slight_smile:

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It seems to have different PSUs, depending on the CPU. This is from the german Lenovo Website for this machine

It lists only up to the i7 CPU, that obviously gets the 380W power supply. So the i9 has probably an even bigger PSU.

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Hello,

as JuergenP also saw, there are version with only a 180W PSU according to Lenovo.
But I am very sure that these models have a much lower spec, like max. core i5, 16GB RAM, and 128/256GB SSD, and no external GPU.

If one check the CPU specs, the CPU alone is allowed to consume up to 241W.

grafik

So if that is an original equipped Lenovo PC, then I would expect a much more powerful PSU, min, 400W, better 500W.
You may ask the reseller to confirm the actual data.
If he keeps on 180W, then I would not buy.

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@JuergenP, @OldBigMan - hey thanks for the info. Sure seems reasonable to me. Will let you all know when it gets here. Thanks again!

i9-12900K has a Processor Base Power of 125W and a Maximum Turbo Power of 241W. The total PSU wattage required depends on this plus the other components in your system,

180w is not enough to power the processor let alone the rest of the machine

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Totally agree, that’s why the panic mode. :slight_smile: I believe now it’s just a case of misleading documentation by the seller. Thanks!

Well, it has arrived and it’s 180W. :face_with_raised_eyebrow: Working on the return now.

Amazon is processing the return and they said to keep the PC - it’s not returnable. Wow - go Amazon!

And you do get your money back?

Still interested in what CPU is in there and at what speed it runs. And what happens if you turn it on.

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