Reading markers off CD-R

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Hi there.

Does anyone remember NERO Burning ROM?

I have a CD with my band’s old rehearsal I created back in the day using that program. Still Windows XP times. It allowed creating markers within a track.

Instead of creating separate track for each song I decided to create a track for each side of the tape and just separate songs with markers for some reason…
So I have a “Tape One” CD with two 30 minutes tracks (“Side A” & “Side B”) and each song would be separated by a marker. I used to own Pioneer CD player that would read and show on front panel all the markers. Nowadays they don’t make CD players like that and most of music is stored online anyway.

Is there a way to read/copy CD markers from the CD done this way in WaveLab?
I know I can still go and redo everything manually but I hoped I can save myself a bit of time.

Thanks

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Hi!

Do you mean Audio CD or Data CD ?
Why I ask is you can read Audio CD with WL 11.2 and earlier versions
but Data CD you need WL 9 or 10 if I remember right or use Nero or similar…

regards S-EH

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Audio CD.

I know you can read audio CD but it doesn’t read/copy the markers, just tracks.
Or I just missed some options…

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Read in the pdf manual or online manual about Importing Audio CD
check markers, Audio CD Report and a tip search for Plextor on the net

https://steinberg.help/wavelab_pro/v11/en/search.html?searchQuery=import+cd+markers

https://steinberg.help/wavelab_pro/v11/en/search.html?searchQuery=importing+audio+cds

CD Import WL
CD Import WL785×1057 166 KB

regards S-EH

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I believe the OP is referring to CD INDEX points. They are part of the CD red book standard, but are rarely used anymore since the 99-TRACK marker limit is usually plenty enough for most CD albums. There can be up to 99 INDEX points inside each TRACK, which is an impossible to completely use number of total potential markers! I have several early CDs of classical music that used INDEX points to mark the movements inside a complete piece marked with a TRACK. I don’t believe Wavelab will recover INDEX points when importing an audio CD.

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Yes it will I just tested this out with CD Index and a DDP done in WL and read back the DDP as a Montage…

like this…

Title :
Engineer :
Comments :
UPC/EAN :

|----|----|—|—|-------------|--------------------|--------------|

Trk Ind Cpy Emp Time Code Duration ISRC
1 0 x 00:00:00.00 Pause: 2.00
1 00:00:02.00
2 00:00:15.57
3 00:00:54.01 Track: 00:01:38.71
---- ---- — — ------------- -------------------- --------------
2 1 x 00:01:40.71
2 00:02:15.08
3 00:03:16.24 Track: 00:02:50.36
---- ---- — — ------------- -------------------- --------------
3 1 x 00:04:31.32
2 00:04:57.23
3 00:05:26.28 Track: 00:01:20.55
---- ---- — — ------------- -------------------- --------------
4 1 x 00:05:52.12
2 00:06:13.61
3 00:06:41.26 Track: 00:01:10.04
---- ---- — — ------------- -------------------- --------------
5 1 x 00:07:02.16
2 00:07:15.01
3 00:07:37.73 Track: 00:01:00.40
---- ---- — — ------------- -------------------- --------------
6 1 x 00:08:02.56
2 00:08:25.30
3 00:09:14.27 Track: 00:01:58.61
---- ---- — — ------------- -------------------- --------------
7 1 x 00:10:01.42
2 00:10:46.13
3 00:12:28.52 Track: 00:03:55.53
---- ---- — — ------------- -------------------- --------------
8 1 x 00:13:57.20
2 00:14:26.38
3 00:15:13.71 Track: 00:02:09.62
---- ---- — — ------------- -------------------- --------------
9 1 x 00:16:07.07
2 00:16:39.47
3 00:17:43.67 Track: 00:02:41.32
---- ---- — — ------------- -------------------- --------------
10 1 x 00:18:48.39
2 00:19:40.14
3 00:21:10.34 Track: 00:03:33.60
---- ---- — — ------------- -------------------- --------------
AA 1 00:22:22.24 CD: 00:22:22.24
---- ---- — — ------------- -------------------- --------------

  1. Track 01
    Length: 1mn 38s

  2. Track 02
    Length: 2mn 50s

  3. Track 03
    Length: 1mn 20s

  4. Track 04
    Length: 1mn 10s

  5. Track 05
    Length: 1mn 0s

  6. Track 06
    Length: 1mn 58s

  7. Track 07
    Length: 3mn 55s

  8. Track 08
    Length: 2mn 9s

  9. Track 09
    Length: 2mn 41s

  10. Track 10
    Length: 3mn 33s

regards S-EH

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That’s good to know. Thanks. Can you confirm that the INDEX points are recovered from an Audio CD (either pressed or burned) when imported through an optical disk drive? I’m curious if the drive may have some effect on that ability. I’m away from my studio this week, so can’t check this myself. Thank you!

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Thanks all.

Yes, my mistake. I was talking about INDEX points, not markers. Sorry for the confusion.

I just done a quick test with one of my pressed CD’s that I know contains INDEX points and it didn’t read them.
Later today after I’ll get back from work I will test it on my CD-R.

Thanks again.

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As far as I know, not all CD Players/disk drives capture index points so even if WL was capable of recovering them, if that function is not supported by the drive all bets are off.

I recall that my Pextor Professional Drives definitely did as I used to do a bit of classical work.

If all else fails … and you are on a PC … maybe try Exact Audio Copy.

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EAC doesn’t read index markers. I’ve been using it for years and it never did.
Again, it might be down to my DVD Drive not reading them.

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One app “dBpoweramp Music Converter” will absolutely grab/rip/copy
included “CD Index” as well there is a demo for 21 days Mac and PC
I did test it with CUE format and read back in WL works fine.

regards S-EH