How on earth can you keep saying that? The mode reduces the sampling resolution to the point that it is unusable. Drawing a straight line in Ramp Mode creates an output that is more stepped than using Step Mode!
What is the benefit of using Ramp Mode, that’s what I would like to know.
@mlib is correct and I too would like to know the benefit of using the ramp mode curve type. Also, you didn’t answer my first question above:
- How can the default curve type be set to “step” for different CC messages? Changing the curve type after recording will not work because I record dozens of tracks at once using Divisimate, so changing the curve type from “ramp/curve” to “step” for every CC per track is not feasible.
Hi,
The benefit is easier creation of a specific curves, if you draw the curves, not record them.
You cannot set it up as default. By default, some MIDI CCs are using Steps (where the expectation is, that the users will always use the Steps, like Sustain Pedal, Bank Select MSB and LSB). Other CCs are set to Ramp by default. A user cannot change the default setting.
I agree with @blubaugha and @mlib here.
This was one of the main selling points for me and it’s been unusable from day 1.
The audio quality is worst / stepped as noted here and in other threads, and the feature creates more issues than the ones it solves.
The feature is supposed to help editing the curves, but it would bave been far better and useful to just be able to select a range of CC point and smooth it out on-demand instead of it being a “recording” feature all-in / all-out.
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Easier creation, yes. That’s great. But what you see is not what you get. That’s a big problem. Your smooth and pretty curves are lying to you.
That doesn’t make sense either given that many sustain pedals send more data than just “On/Off”.
Steinberg needs to recognize this as a problem.
I’m having The Same pitch Bend problem in Cubase 13 Pro
Hi martin and all - I have to agree with nearly everyone posting on this.
Midi CC for Pitch bend and Modulation and probably all others is being recorded in LOW RES. If you change the ramp/curve setting to Step, it only changes the data to an even coarser curve, meaning you will hear unnatural jumps in pitch when the pitch bend range is 2 semitones or more.
I add pitch and mod data all the time, in real time, from several keyboard controllers including a brand new Keystation 61. I have just tested this keyboard in Cub13 and seen the mess it made of several midi parts with pitch bend and modulation.
You should NOT have to go and edit a part just to make it sound vaguely correct!
If it cannot even record what you are playing in midi correctly, it is USELESS as a piece of midi recording software.
I have used Cubase since Cubase VST in around 1998, and I know what is going on with v13’s midi recording - it’s terrible.
Before that I used an Atari ST with ancient Dr T’s software and had much finer resoltion and timing stability, as well as accurate pitch bend and mod data, recorded and editable.
I’m sorry to say you are not helping us with comments about changing data display formats in an editor, after the fact. It does not produce the effect that was played on the keyboard or controller, it makes it rough and jumpy, not a smooth curve.
Who wants to have to edit everything every single time a midi recording is made just to have it sound the way you played it, and heard it live??
Cubase 12 Pro works properly and I have no issues with it. V13 has stuffed it up, and actually there is no benefit I can find to using v13 - there are a few new audio plugins, but I have no use for them so far.
Please Steinberg get out of your coding hole, listen to your customers for a change, and make a fantastic tool for RECORDING midi again.
Hi,
I’m sorry for misunderstanding. You have to change the setting first and then record.
Hi Martin, thanks for reading that. I did do that, and it still defaulted to ‘ramp/curve’ when I went into the editor. And then changing it later, as I said, only produced a rough and low res version of what you would see in ALL OTHER Cubase versions (I have used them all). V12 has just recorded the midi from my new keyboard pitch bend, mod wheel and keys, all is good.
Pitch bend on v13 leaves the Zero state after a bend up or down, meaning the tuning is off. It’s that simple.
This is a MAJOR bug, and is not good enough for purchased software with this midi heritage.
Hi,
This setting is not about the change. It’s about the newly recorded data. So the way to work is following:
- Change the setting.
- Record new MIDI Part.
→ Newly recorded MIDI Part is using the Step mode.
I have this pitch bend problem in Cubase 14pro.
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Same here cubase 14.0.30
Yes the time resolution of ramps still is unacceptably poor.
The solution still is to change to Steps before recording.
You’ll have to click the little triangle button right of the + button.
Ramps: Easier to edit but sound is poor
Steps: Not as comfortable to edit but sound is at it should be
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