Rehearsal Marks vs System Text ... and other Q's

2 days into Dorico after the Finale debacle.

I’m investigating 2 things at the moment:

  1. custom rehearsal marks vs system text
  2. “style” directives under the tempo marking

I’m aware of how to add rehearsal markings and change the suffixes … ex: using “22” for “V” and then adding the suffix “erse” to denote “Verse” rehearsal markings. Is there a better or quicker way to do this…what if I want “Verse 1” and a “Verse 2” markings?
I’m gonna be doing this thousands of times and I’m looking for a quick and easy way to create rehearsal markings such as “Verse 1, Verse 2, Verse 3, Chorus 1, Chorus 2, Segue, Bridge, Ending, Intro, Interlude” etc etc.
Someone suggested using System Text and I’m a little unsure the difference between System Text and Rehearsal Markings.

Secondly, how do I add a “style” directive underneath my initial tempo markings as seen in my Finale chart underneath the “quarter note = 72” tempo mark.

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System-attached text is just generic text that behaves like a system object. That’s probably going to be useful for your context.

You can create paragraph styles with formatting already set up (like showing a border, or being bold, etc) and use that style for these markings in system-attached text. Then, if you ever change your mind about them (that they should have a larger font size, for example) you make that change once for the paragraph style, and all text items that use it will be updated.

Rehearsal marks are just that: rehearsal marks. They’re designed to run in sequence automatically. Arguably, using rehearsal marks as a way to get boxed text and manually setting the index number is a workaround.

Dorico’s notations are very semantic: dynamics (including p/f and hairpins) are “dynamics”. Rehearsal marks are “rehearsal marks”.

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As a bonus, once you create a custom paragraph style and click the star to “Save as Default,” it will allow you to assign and key command to it, AND it will be available on any project.

Once that’s done, you could assign that paragraph style to something like Shift-E. E for easy. :sunglasses:

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I’m trying to add a bordered “INTRO” to measure 1.

I click the first quarter-rest in measure 1.
Go to menu item WRITE>CREATE SYSTEM TEXT>REHEARSAL MARKS
Type in “INTRO”. There are no options in the popover window for a bounding/border box.
I click out of that “INTRO” entry and now my INTRO is hidden behind my Key Signature flag and I can’t select it. I can only double click it which brings up the popover to edit the text.

Surely I’m doing this wrong? To add custom text/rehearsal marks like this includes 3 steps of filtering through large menu items which seems laborious…?

There’s no way to save my bordered text in, say, the PLAYING TECHNIQUES or REPEAT popover windows for quick access and implementation?

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Making progress.

SHIFT OPTION X brings up a system text input box.

I’m messing with the PARAGRAPH STYLES to create a default border.
I had to de-parent my REHEARSAL MARKS from DEFAULT TEXT because I was getting 2 border boxes around my “A, B, C, etc” rehearsal markings.

Dang. Spoke too soon.

I added a BORDER around my DEFAULT TEXT because my system text “Verse 1, verse 2, etc” needed a border and my System Text is a “child” of Default Text.
Now my Title, Composer, etc have border boxes.

Grrrr

Is calling your custom paragraph style “Default Text” a wise idea considering it may be a term already in use by the program?

Exactly. Cascading styles are powerful but also give you the ability to screw up 10 things at once. :sunglasses:

Recommend you follow the step I suggested above instead.

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You can hide signposts via the View menu. There’s also a key command that temporarily hides all non-printing elements for as long as you hold it down; on Mac it’s the ~ key.

You can also select something that’s behind something else by Shift-Alt-clicking.

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I didn’t call it that. That’s what it defaulted to.

Is calling your custom paragraph style “Default Text” a wise idea considering it may be a term already in use by the program?

When you add system text, the paragraph style that’s auto-selected is “Default Text”. This style is used as the parent for basically everything in your project. I would exercise caution in editing that style!

Create a new paragraph style for your section headings - you can edit that new style freely, knowing it won’t affect anything else. Then just make sure you select this new style when inserting your system text.

As Dan said, once you’ve saved a paragraph style as default, you can assign a key command for it that does both the following in one go:

  1. Adds a text item
  2. Pre-selects that specific paragraph style

I missed your post!

I created a new paragraph style “REHEARSAL SECTIONS” and starred it and assigned a key command!
Thanks!

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I have also problems with the rehearsal marks:

  1. When I check “border” I get two borders. Unchecking “border” one border remains.
  2. I created my own paragraph style and try to use it. When I add a some text from this style it appears in the full score and in the first part but not in other parts. Does this mean I have to add it in every single part? Isn’t there a way to add it once and see it in every single art as it is with the rehearsal marks?
  3. How can I assigne a key command to this style?
  1. You must have edited the Rehearsal Marks paragraph style to have a paragraph border. This is separate from the border choices in Engraving Options. (We could confirm this if you post a project.)
  2. Shift-X creates “staff text” which shows on that instrument. For “system text” that appears in all parts it’s Shift-Alt-X.
  3. Select your style in Edit Paragraph Styles and look for the star icon ★ at the bottom of the list. If it’s an outline ☆︎, click it to set your style as a default for new projects. Once it is a default style, you can find it by name in Preferences > Key Commands, under Note Input > Create Text.
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Thanks. This solved my problems concerning the Rehearsal Marks and my own styles.