Rehearsal number position

[joakimsandgren]

hello all,

When the rehearsal numbers are out to the left start of the staff I notice that
when the bar numbers come up into the hundreds,
at one point the rehearsal number position jumps up from this :

to this :

I would like to have the rehearsal numbers consistently at the first position
but there isn’t a horisontal offset option in this case to avoid the bar number…

I’m using 3/4 horisontal space gap for the rehearsal numbers.

greetings,

joakim

…if you center the bar numbers they move out more to the left and the rehearsal number take the lower position, but I can’t have the bar numbers out in the blank to the left of the staff limit…

[Vadian]

In my opinion both bar numbers and (different) rehearsal numbers are confusing in the rehearsals.

If the original has rehearsal numbers (not letters) but no bar numbers I always replace the rehearsal numbers with the actual current bar numbers. The benefit is that you got real rehearsal marks and Dorico shows the enclosed number at the beginning of a system and omits the bar number.

[Vadian]

@joakimsandgren

this is a historical score

I understand but most likely the historical score doesn’t have bar numbers, so an alternative is to get rid of the bar numbers.

[hrnbouma]

All this is very much irrelevant to OP’s actual question. Obviously it works the same with letters. I would certainly welcome such a feature as well.

[jesele]

I guess left-aligned rehearsal marks are a no-no.

Jesper

[joakimsandgren]

that would work great in the case out to the left
but it’s no good for all the rest… :

thanks anyway jesper ! /j

[jesele]

@joakimsandgren

but it’s no good for all the rest…

Yes, that’s what I figured.

Jesper

[FredGUnn]

I just use these settings:

It’s technically left-aligned with the system, but then an offset of 3 3/4 spaces more or less aligns it with the first accidental and positions it after the bar number. (Or at least 3-digit bar numbers.) This doesn’t work with grand staff instruments though.

[joakimsandgren]

oh thank you !

I did try this but apparently I didn’t push it far enough.

cool !

thanks !

/jjj

[joakimsandgren]

Last night I actually didn’t read all your text…@FredGUnn

It is curious that any grand staffs - or more - don’t correctly place the rehearsal mark…

It’s not only piano, it applies to any multi stave formation, like string divisi. Or the Score !!

normally it “never” work but sometimes it does, and I fail to see the logic.

here, for example, 2 staves (of 4) got the right position but the four staves don’t. and some entries in the score.

Is this a bug ? or is it logic ? @dspreadbury

[FredGUnn]

Daniel had responded to this thread 4 years ago, basically saying this isn’t the intended use for this setting and the fact that it works at all is actually the bug!

Horizontal offset for rehearsal mark aligned with systemic barline not working with multiple staves

It’s probably not sufficiently clear from the way the option is described, but the idea behind this option is that if you end up showing rehearsal marks on a staff in the middle of a system, the offset should be applied to avoid a collision with the systemic barline; it’s actually not supposed to take effect when the rehearsal mark is above the top staff or below the bottom staff of the system, so in fact the bug here is that it applies when there is only a single staff.

We really need a reliable way to have better rehearsal letter positioning. As I showed with several examples in that thread, aligning it more or less with the first key sig accidental is very common historically among respected publishers when it begins a system. It would be great if Dorico could reliably support this too. Above the number creates unnecessary vertical space, in the margin looks sloppy (IMO), and at the start of the music makes it a little less convenient to locate as it’s that much further from the start of the system. That’s why aligning with the first key sig accidental is such a common positioning option that Dorico should support.

[joakimsandgren]

Oh ok! I couldn’t find that thread.

Good to know ! Thanks for info !

And, of course - yes please !

Sincerely,

Joakim