Render in Place not working properly

[Martin.Jirsak]

Hi,

You set the Tail Size to 0.500. If you set it to 0, you will get the result you expect.

[Nico5]

@Martin.Jirsak

Hi,

You set the Tail Size to 0.500. If you set it to 0, you will get the result you expect.

I just tested as you suggested

and still only get a single event rather than 2:

[paka]

Setting Tail Mode to Off produces separate events for me.

[Martin.Jirsak]

Hi,

Oh, yes. Better to set the Tail Mode to Off, rather than just 0.00 size.

[Nico5]

@paka

Setting Tail Mode to Off produces separate events for me.

@Martin.Jirsak

Hi,

Oh, yes. Better to set the Tail Mode to Off, rather than just 0.00 size.

Ok - so I tried that as suggested:

And now I get two events, with the second one being empty

Which coincidentally is what I first found and reported in December of last year:

@Nico5

I’m trying to apply Render in Place to several audio events (selecting all of them) on the same audio track belonging to the same underlying audio file with the objective to cut up the original audio file into smaller audio files.

The first event renders ok, but all the others render an empty file.

This is happening in Cubase 11 Pro on Win10 Pro, while it works fine as expected on in Cubase Pro 10.5 on the same computer.

Is this working fine for others on Win10? Or is everyone only seeing it work ok on MacOS? Or has anyone even tried to reproduce it on Win10?

[paka]

Works for me on Windows 10 (Home). Tried with both 24-bit and 32-bit, to see if there was some snafu there. Also with a delay plug-in, to see if that would cause problems with delay tail. No issues on my computer.

[Martin.Jirsak]

Hi,

@Nico5

And now I get two events, with the second one being empty

Could you try in the Cubase Safe Start Mode [Disable Preferences], please?

[Nico5]

@paka

Works for me on Windows 10 (Home). Tried with both 24-bit and 32-bit, to see if there was some snafu there. Also with a delay plug-in, to see if that would cause problems with delay tail. No issues on my computer.

Thanks for letting me know that it works for you on Win10 Home, and I assume you are indeed using Cubase 11 Pro?

[paka]

Yep, 11.0.41.

[Nico5]

@Martin.Jirsak

Could you try in the Cubase Safe Start Mode [Disable Preferences], please?

I’ve just done that: Safe Mode: 3rd Party Plugins Deactivated, Program Preferences Disabled.

Identical result: second event empty:

[Nico5]

And for fun with the original split into 4 events:

produces 3 empty events:

[Nico5]

@paka

Yep, 11.0.41.

Thanks for confirming - so the only obvious difference on our systems is Win10 Home vs Pro.

Oddly enough it still works fine on my system in Cubase Pro 10.5 - so that’s why I assumed some code change in Cubase 11 Pro vs 10.5 Pro.

[Martin.Jirsak]

Hi,

@Nico5

Oddly enough it still works fine on my system in Cubase Pro 10.5

Did you test this on the very same machine, very same project, please?

[Nico5]

@Martin.Jirsak

Hi,

@Nico5

Oddly enough it still works fine on my system in Cubase Pro 10.5

Did you test this on the very same machine, very same project, please?

Yes indeed. Same computer, same Windows session.

In both cases I followed the process:

• Safe Start Cubase without 3rd party plugins and
• Create a new project using the Empty preset
• Drag and drop the same WAV file from the media bay into the project window - Cubase automatically creating a new audio track without any plugins
• Split the resulting event into 2
• Select both events
• Render in place (Separate Events, Dry, Tail Mode Off)

---

HOWEVER:

Dear @Martin.Jirsak:

Thank you very much for staying with this issue for so long.

But if my experience is a rare outlier and can’t be easily repeated, by you or someone else in the Cubase support team, I propose we give up on the trouble-shooting for now.

I can work around the issue, by repeating the selection and rendering of single events. It’s less convenient and mysterious why it happens, but not stopping me from making music.

I would just be grateful, if you would tell me, if it appears to be an outlier problem and can’t be easily repeated.

Thanks again!

[Martin.Jirsak]

Hi,

@Nico5

But if my experience is a rare outlier and can’t be easily repeated, by you or someone else in the Cubase support team, I propose we give up on the trouble-shooting for now.

I’m sorry, I cannot reproduce it here on my side. I tried on both Mac and Windows.

[Nico5]

@Martin.Jirsak

I’m sorry, I cannot reproduce it here on my side. I tried on both Mac and Windows.

That’s good to know - so it must be something rather peculiar on my system.

I’ll report back, if I ever figure it out.

[MarcoE]

Easy steps to reproduce, so I tried too. I did different variations of it. All worked fine here too.
I know, this doesn’t help you…11.0.41 on Win 20H2, 19042.1348

[Nico5]

@MarcoE

Thank you very much for testing it on your system and even including the precise Windows version (which is also exactly what I’m running).

I very much appreciate, that you took the time to test and post.

And I find it very helpful because that strengthens the case, that it’s an outlier situation on my particular system - and that gives me encouragement to think of what might be peculiar to my system and thus cause the oddity I’m seeing.

Thanks again!

[mazemania]

Still have the issue, since years
Externa effect is a Kemper, render in place either stops or doesnt really work, lot waste of time.
Why can Steinberg not deal with that issue?
Tried many settings.
Any help?

p.s.: it might have to do with the sample rate of cubase as well. i only do proper exports now and first time it also canceled “cpu overloard or some error message” → changed to 1024 samples buffer and it seems to work now, no clue. but all not good.

[lordadb]

I’ll throw it there: try changing the name of the track, sometimes the operating system doesn’t accept some characters for file names. Try simply something alphanumeric, with no hyphens.
Just a try.