I have a long repeat ending segment (first ending of 2 endings) where I only want the hook+line at the beginning and ending bars. If, in the lower zone Repeat Endings screen, I select “End of line” + “Open, to next barline” I get the beginning line and hook as I want, but I lose the line and hook on the last bar of the segment. What is the right way to get hook+line in the first bar of the segment and the line+hook in the last bar and no line for the intervening bars and still playback properly? (I can’t use DS and Coda because the repeat map has those and would conflict and I can’t “write it out” and meet my “gotta fit on 2 pages and at a readable size limitation” that I’m not flexible on. Note that Finale always did the opposite: 1 bar hook+line at both the beginning and ending bars and you had to stretch them to meet if you wanted the line above all bars.)
Can you post a picture?
IIRC there is a convention about the meaning of a hook in a repeat marker.
I can picture this, and I don’t think Dorico supports it. You want to draw the beginning of the 1st ending line, but not the whole thing because it would be so long. The full bracket is required notation in combination with the 2nd ending.
According to Gould on page 237 (in my edition), under the heading “Separate Ending Sections of More Than a Bar’s Length” she says “Across a system break the first-time bracket is open-ended” and the image shows a 2 bar ending bracket before the second ending like I am asking for.
After changing the End of line property to Open, to next barline, you can simulate the ending bracket before the second ending using a solid horizontal line with inward-pointing hook. To match the default appearance of a repeat ending bracket, the line and hook widths should be set to 1/5 and the hook length to 2 1/2 using the Line Body Editor and Line Annotation Editor in the Edit Lines dialog. Then apply the line to the last measure of the first ending:
Thank you! New to Dorico, so I haven’t used lines yet, I will figure this out, hopefully. I hope Dorico implements this eventually, Gould implies this is an appropriate notation and I use this fairly often.
Also, just a side note: Dorico’s only option is to shorten the starting line to one bar, whereas Gould says it should go to the end of the system.
I tried the settings you suggest using the menu in the attached image, but the hook is unchanged. Any idea what I did wrong?
In engrave mode, you can click on the right end of the line and lengthen it slowly by typing Alt/Opt-Right Arrow or lengthen it faster by typing Ctrl/Cmd-Alt/Opt-Right Arrow.
If you’re using this line from the right panel, you need to edit the inward-pointing axis-aligned hook:
Thanks again!! That was the one I needed (and now I see that I can find the name when I hover over the line in the menu), and I now have things lined up, but for some reason the vertical placement didn’t match the “2.” repeat and once I moved it up, I had to keep tweaking the hook length to get it to match.
I didn’t notice until after I previously replied that the hook length on the line doesn’t match the second ending bracket. The hook length I suggested came from Library > Engraving Options > Repeat Endings > Design. Sorry about that.
No need to be sorry, this was a huge help. Besides, I learn more having to do some of the tweaking myself 