Repeated note abbreviation

One of the joys of transcribing for an instrument not one’s own is coming up against puzzling notations.

This comes from Gould (219):

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I know how to enter the notation on the right. Is there a way to enter the abbreviated notation on the left?

This isn’t quite how it’s notated in my French band score. That shows the notehead dotted, but I’m happy to follow Gould.

FWIW: I don’t agree with Gould here, I think it should be a dotted note. It represents 3 quavers/eighths.

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I’d can see a case for making it dotted; though arguably the tuplet is “inside” the single crotchet’s duration.

I’d suggest making a dotted crotchet in a tuplet, add the tremolo, and then if you want, set the dot X offset to 2000.

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Thanks. My problem was an insecure grasp of the way tuplets are entered, and of the principle that they don’t have to contain multiple notes.

Actually, the Rhythm dot to 2000 spaces produced some weird results for me. There might be a better way of hiding the dot.

Are there downsides to setting it to -1 so that it hides under the notehead? (obviously no good for dotted minims etc.)

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Nice. It needs a little bit more than -1 space, though: -1 and 3/8ths works beautifully.

It’s a shame that if you select only an accidental or dot in Engrave mode, and change the colour, only the notehead is changed, even though it’s not selected. (But I digress…)

Oh, just come up with a ‘better’ way:

Create a a tuplet of 3 quavers in the time of 2, with another tuplet inside of 2 in 3!!

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Then hide the number of the 2.

Isn’t this a kind of copy of a three (or more) years old thread?
[Edit] Make it five years!
Tuplet tremolo

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Not a copy. An unintended near-duplicate. I did search before posting and didn’t turn it up.

You’re not accused of not searching. It really was a long time ago… And I remember there was another thread where it’s been made very clear that the tuplet tool in Dorico really allowed many stuff like that to be very accurately notated. AFAIK the playback is still wrong, unfortunately.

I’m happy to keep the dot: it’s closer to the original. I’ve never come across the notation before so I have no strong feelings either way. I was prepared to do without it if necessary. My problem was more fundamental. It never occurred to me that there could be such a thing as a single-note tuplet, so I had no idea how to enter it.

You can create a tuplet by selecting a duration (such as a quaver/eighth), press ; 3 return , then select a crotchet/quarter note or dotted crotchet to enter that note.