Respell uncommon accidentals

While I am aware of the ‘Respell Notes Automatically’ feature (which does a good job in many cases) I was wondering whether in Dorico there is a way to banish all double sharps and also get rid of all E sharps/F flats/C flats/B sharps (i.e. an equivalent to Sibelius’s ‘Respell Uncommon Accidentals’ plugin). I am aware that transposing to unison will with the ‘Respell to avoid double and triple sharps and flats’ will get rid of all double sharps/flats, however I would still like an automatic way to get rid of all E sharps/F flats/C flats/B sharps!

That is the automatic way.

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That still doesn’t help with E sharps/F flats/C flats/B sharps though…

@IsaacAdni

  1. Select all
  2. Edit>Filter notes by pitch (f and c flats in any octave) “select”
  3. Write>respell>respell using note name below
  4. select all again
  5. Edit>Filter notes by pitch (e and b sharps in any octave) “select”
  6. Write>respell>respell using note name above
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I don’t want to ever see a triple flat. Ever. Nor do I want to periodically select passages and apply a transpose filter to them. An unnecessary step that just interrupts work flow. I want to set an option up front so that automatic spelling will match my expectations without further fiddling around by me. I don’t want to see double sharps or double flats either.

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Oh, the read-my-mind property. Not implemented yet.
One can eliminate double sharps/flats by transposing to a perfect unison and disabling the double sharps/flats, but one cannot stipulate that you never see them (unless, I suppose, one sets one’s key signature as atonal).

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I actually agree with @indigo3301 here. It surely can’t be beyond the wit of Dorico programmers to simply provide a global option (unless manually overwritten) to never see double far less triple sharps and flats. So many people have requested this, after all – it’s completely irrelevant what might or what might not be correct enharmonic spelling. Many musicians simply don’t like reading double accidentals.

Under what circumstances do you frequently get double or triple accidentals in your project, if you don’t want them?

Surely, you would have to be giving G naturals in F# major to a B flat trumpet, or similar. I can’t even think how you’d manage to get triple flats.

Is changing the key out of the question? :laughing:

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the biggest issue I find is transposing using Alt+shift+ arrow up or down. This invariably results in a forest of double accidentals. And as this is by far the quickest way to transpose up to around a 3rd, it’s the way I prefer to do it.

Obviously this is assuming that the music isn’t using a key signature – if the music is clearly rooted in a particular key then I will tend to employ other methods. But a lot of what I write isn’t (or it would be too much hassle to change the key signature every few bars). And as this request comes up so often, I don’t think I’m alone here.

Well… transpose to “around” somewhere, get “around” the accidentals you would like…

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I’m not sure I fully understand the last remark – perhaps it’s Saxon humour which eludes me as I haven’t lived there since 1986 :smiley:

Anyway, this thread and numerous others like it just want Dorico to have the option of simply and quickly globally suppressing double/triple accidentals (or E sharps etc). The reasons are various and may even be musically misjudged but that isn’t the point! I know one person who refuses to move from Sibelius to Dorico until the “enharmonic diarrhoea” – his words, not mine – is brought under control. At that I’ll leave it.