Reviewer bug: Warnings remain after deleting Ossia staves

[glauco]

Hello Dorico team,

The new Reviewer feature is my favorite; it has been very helpful in preventing errors. However, I would like to report an issue.

When adding an Ossia staff with very high notes, these notes are promptly flagged as uncomfortable for the instrument. But after deleting the Ossia staff, the program continues to flag them even though the notes are no longer there.

This happened while I was working on a piece with many Ossia staves containing optional high passages. Even after deleting them, all the high-note notifications remained. I tested this with a new file: I created a single bar, added an Ossia staff with a note out of range, and the Reviewer immediately flagged it. After I deleted the staff, the notification for the non-existent problem persisted.

TEST.dorico (678,7,KB)

[jesele]

The notes are still there even if you delete the ossia staff, so you have to delete the notes first.

Jesper

[glauco]

Interesting, I didn’t know that. So whenever I delete any staff, do the notes stay there like ghosts? You helped me; I’m going to resolve my current issue. Thanks for the quick response!

[jesele]

Yes, it’s useful sometimes for playback purposes. If you add the ossia again, you will see the notes.

Jesper

[k_b]

In Dorico the actual music happens as streamed “sound events”.
Putting a staff in combination with a key and a time signature helps you to read it and recognise the music (that’s just the graphical display).

[benwiggy]

@glauco

So whenever I delete any staff, do the notes stay there like ghosts?

Only when you delete an additional staff, like an ossia, a divisi, or “Add Staff”.

Obviously, if you delete the Player, then the music is gone.

[Janus]

@benwiggy

Obviously, if you delete the Player, then the music is gone.

Though it is the instrument the player is holding that has the notes, so deleting the instrument is sufficient to lose them.

[glauco]

Yes, I understand. I’ve never actually needed to hide staves in Dorico for playback adjustments, but I do that frequently in MuseScore (where I create my score videos). There, we ‘hide’ a staff rather than ‘deleting’ it like in Dorico. Deleting indeed feels like discarding everything, so I didn’t think that the notes wouldn’t be deleted along with the staff. I figured there was a way to hide them, but I just never looked into how to do it. I understand everything now and I’m happy to know it’s not a bug after all. Thanks!

[benwiggy]

@glauco

There, we ‘hide’ a staff rather than ‘deleting’ it like in Dorico.

Does Dorico call it “deleting”? I’m not sure that it does.

[Zalde]

The manual does:

Deleting extra/ossia staves - Dorico Pro - 6.1

(But with an explicit warning that deleting a staff doesn’t delete the music).