Does Dorico have plans for Roman Numeral Analysis? In guitar lessons and tutorials I can get away with the MusAnalysis Font in the Lyric option. However, when I have guitar and voice and want to analyze the guitar, it seems I can’t also have lyrics. Or, is there a work around…?
You could put the MusicAnalysis in a different lyric line (eg chorus)?
Lyric line 3, for example? And how do you set normal font for just that line?
I don’t think you can set a different font for each verse, but you can separate verses, chorus and translation…
Library>Paragraph Styles
Now let‘s combine @dan_kreider ‘s Cantorum and MusAnalysis font and do some functional harmony analysis for a 10th century chant …
Haha
When I get frustrated I switch to Finale, but quickly realize that it will soon be dead.
It is actually possible to create as many custom Paragraph Styles as you want, and assign those to any selected lyrics you want.
Of course this can get a bit difficult if you’re inputting non-standard characters, like MusAnalysis or Cantorum. But it is quite flexible.
Could you possibly assign one level to a vocal staff and another level to tablature with the roman numeral analysis positioned under the tab staff? And can you hide vs numbers?
This is going in a journal article and I need both. Since Dorico is not quite there yet on this aspect, I have thought about doing Lyrics in Dorico. Then exporting pages as JPG and inputting analysis in Photoshop. Pretty tedious, but still happy with Dorico over Finale.
I think a vector graphics program would be better suited than Photoshop.
Caveat: MusAnalysis doesn’t work in Photoshop or Illustrator. It does work in InDesign.
If you’re going to go that far why not just use Musanalysis above the staff as non lyric text. I actually prefer to work that way as some complex analysis notation often gets center justified under notes when using lyrics and doesn’t really end up with the right spacing.
Thanks Dan. Yeah, I use Finale Numerics in Photoshop.
Thanks Dewd. For Aesthetic reasons mostly. Lyrics look best in between notation staff and tab. Chord diagrams above when needed and Roman numeral analysis below the tab staff.
well you can put text anywhere you want when its not lyrics…but it below if you like too. I just personally didn’t like using lyrics. everyone’s different. with the non-lyric entry you can place it anywhere you want. Regarding where analysis “looks best” that is also personal preference. I used to do it below also, per my university schooling years ago, but later on studied under Berklee graduates who all put it above and now I prefer above because its more where chord symbols are typically found and kind of makes more sense, plus there is room to put some arcs and braces if desired related to cadential resolution and other things. But anyway I digress everyone is different
I will definitely try left justified lyrics later when I have a chance to see if it can work out a little better, but still my advice is…if you want more control of where it goes, above, below, to the left, to the right, nudged this way or that way to fit some analysis markings…then normal text rather then lyrics will give you that control.
Gotcha. You should try MusAnalysis… I designed it because Finale Numerics looks so bad. Sorry, hope that doesn’t sound snobbish!
Hi Dan. I use MusAnalysis and it is much better than Finale. I am still very new to Dorico and with Finale discontinuing so suddenly, I have tons of work I am trying to import. Neither program does everything I want although I think Dorico is infinitely more powerful with so much more untapped potential.
Hi Dewd,
Yeah, I meant aesthetically better for my purposes. Most music journals still follow that old way. With three staves I find diagrams above the notation, lyrics between the vocal and guitar notation, and roman numeral analysis below the tab staff leaves the least clutter and appreciate whatever anyone else has to do to fit their needs.
Does normal text attach to objects, is that what you mean, or text boxes in engrave mode? That is another problem I am having. A lot of text in finale did not attach and so I have to erase before exporting. Either way, I then have to do a lot of manual adjustment. Thanks.
yes as I understand it, though I’m still learning this stuff too
Staff and system text are attached to rhythmic positions on the staff. The benefits and limitations derive from that pretty much as you would expect. Mostly, staff text doesn’t cause an override on the page, and it moves with the staff.
