Well i try to go further with the melody construction in the score editor and i do want the note editing alone with the computer keyboard.
I shall keep my post short, because it seems to be confusing when i write too much.
It is hard to understand what you are saying. What is your first language? Maybe you can use an online translator?
My first language is the Dutch language Steve.
How to improve my english language … try to do more my best. 
. i hope you can follow now this sentence what i have written down now. ( i do my best as you can see )
I know from myself, when i am frustrated that i am not so abundant in writing… to say …short.
Really interesting features for classical composing in Cubase , but the score editor makes it still a pain to get a even a simple melody right.
Thanks Bob!
I found a open source score editor
How about that?
Would you consider typing your question in dutch? Then we can use Google Translate to get it in into english. It might work, at least the results could be amusing.
Geen probleem om het in Nederlands te schrijven Steve!
Ik wil proberen om de nootinvoer in de score editor via het computertoetsenbord te laten gaan
Wat moet ik hiervoor instellen in Cubase?
Het ziet er naar uit dat ik vastloop met het werken met de score editor in Cubase…wat een rotzooi dit programma…verouderd volgens mij
Google: "No problem for the Dutch in writing Steve! I will try to import the note in the score editor via the computer keyboard to let go What should I set in Cubase?
Me: “No problem writing in Dutch, Steve! What I’m trying is to input notes into the score editor by using my computer keyboard. What should I set in Cubase to achieve this?”
Google: “It looks that I jam with working with the score editor in Cubase … what a mess this date in my program …”
Me: “It looks like I’m getting stuck working with Score Editor in Cubase… This program s*cks… dated if you ask me”
Google translate is amusing indeed… 
Misschien is het gemakkelijker om het in nederlands te schrijven, maar als ik technische kleine vragen zou stellen over de werking van de scoreeditor dan zou het ook in het Engels kunnen denk ik.
Ik moet het dat kort houden en toegespitst op het deelprobleem in de scoreeditor
Kan je het nu beter lezen Steve?
Aloha j,
These may (or may not) help.
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And:
is a link to scorecleaner a midi to score program. Not free but apparently very good. £99
Thanks!
Those video tutorial helps, if you want make your score more legible after your recording
But i do want to use the score editor solely for classical composing alone ( no recording)… and that is not(yet) possible.
The only solution for now is i think is to work in the keyeditor first, and than together with the score editor where you can check the desired note entry. ( or a external score editor )
Composing alone in the score editor is not done by Cubase users i think… that’s why they write in these thread to me : good luck 
That’s why it’s called a ‘score editor’. It is used to edit an existing score, hence earlier, existing data. You want the Cubase score editor to be a tool that it is not…
Thanks
That’s true what you say… i must accept this fact and try to work in the key editor
What i am doing right now…but i have to be careful there with the quantisize options
You can give quantisize options in the score editor and these are overtaken general in the keyeditor, but the “score settings” in the score editor must be adjusted too.
I hope Steinberg can make new improvements to the score editor that composing with the expression maps gets to a higher level of composing.
Sadly, Arjan is exactly right as it is meant more as a print utility where you edit data AFTER the recording, more for when you want to substitute a real musician for the midi instrument and give him the dots.
Though the wording of ads can lead the unwary to not quite see it that way. I think it ought to be made more specific until they develop it fully for live input. Saying that it’s hard for me to see how such an interpretative and evolving feature could ever get perfect. They are trying though.
I would say that to use it for input and “instant” scoring one would have to be really accurate with your timing, note length and rest length. At the moment it relies heavily on the quantise function (for initial score tidiness) which, to a “live input” composer might not always be acceptable.
You either get what you put in or what you have tidied up.
I suppose in a way it does rely on a compositional way of doing things which is to play, or think out, the piece and then roughly score the relevant parts and then collate them in a tidy form later when they’re ready to be played.
Even then the musicians will have pencilled in “improvements” all over it. 
In the manual it says to make the score legible using a COPY and if you’ve ever done that and played it back you’ll know how badly it actually sounds.
And if you didn’t make a copy… 
Yes, make a copy from your recorded midi , before you get to work with the score to make it better legible
The endresult can be not satisfying, than you must start over again 
Finally i managed with all your help here on the forum to get the right melody line!
Underway i learned also new issues from midi editing in the keyeditor when i apply all information from the forum.
One aspect is also that it is be handy to have is: the “notes values” under a key for the editors
In the key editor than i can right away on a grid position with the drawing tool ( vertical line ) add a with a keystroke a notevalue…no pulling out of notes!
So i must design some keystrokes for notes
In NOTION: notatation program , it was handy to use QWER ( quarter, whole, eight, rest 0 and so on )…i must find out this
Other aspect is to humanize the melody a bit …how to that?
Other aspect is to humanize the melody a bit …how to that?
Do you mean soundwise or Scorewise?
To humanize the melody soundwise you must work on the original (the copy being the Score version. original the “audio” or midi instrument). Humanising will probably ruin a legible score.
I think your problem is of perception. You want to have a real player play what you have scored by reading the music onscreen as the Project plays back so he can replace the original midi?
Sometimes you can but Mr Badluck says that if it sounds humanized then you need to print the score (from your tidied copy) for a real player to read.
You would also run into the problem that if the melody sounded right and you got an acompanying part tidy in the score then they would sound odd when played back unless you muted the “tidy” part so that it was readable to play in but you would not hear it as a guide. Which is the another alternative to this other than to print the score.
OR. Copy the melody, hide the humanized one in the score and use the other to edit for legibility. It could get involved.
Thanks!
I mean soundwise…there is no real player for me neccessary, who has to perform my music.
It’s music for listening and the whole piece of my composed music must sound natural.
If it’s just music for listening then you don’t need score. Practise?
And it’s easier to input by keyboard than scoring so really, if it’s for listening then why Cubase? Seems overengineering to me.
Are you editing someone else’s work or archiving or something? ie: copying from your own work in manuscript?
I compose a classical piece with the key/score editor and expression map…that’s the intention.
Perhaps is note entry with a midi keyboard and step input also possible for composing?
It depends on the complexity of the composition maybe what note entry is preferable/possible ?
I don’t know yet and try this to find out here on the forum.
Perhaps is it possible to give the piece a human feel ( humanizing ), but if that mean that score becomes not legible anymore , than i have a score problem. 
I like to have good sounding piece with a legible score!
What workflow is the best for classical composing in Cubase that i try to find out.
It can also that humanizing in a classical midi score is not done… i don’t know i have to find out this
The same melody piece what i did with the score/key- editor …i try to do now with the midi keyboard by step input
What works the best out for note entry?..perhaps it is a combination of stepinput and key editor?
Perhaps when i master this workflows in Cubase than the need for a external score editor for me is not anymore neccessary?
But the ease of those external score editors like finale,sibilius, notion, etc of note entry and the complexity of the note structure in those external composers seems much easier to achieve than in Cubase?
Perhaps i do need a midi controller keyboard for step input with assignable knobs to control Cubase?
It seems to be rather easy the step input when i am doing it right now in Cubase with the midi keyboard too and with the knowledge of the score /keyeditor editing i can easily correct the notes.
I get the idea that working in the keyeditor combined with the score editor is more conveniant than the midikeyboard with step input, when i do want to duplicate a written score example.
But i think also that i have to compose with the midi keyboard as well in real time.
But i think also that i have to compose with the midi keyboard as well in real time.
Yes, this is the best way to do it as I think it was designed that way. The odd step input should be ok as well. I don’t see why you shouldn’t get a natural sound and a score but it can be hard work at first. You must be careful with your timing and quantise values at times and you may find it easier to adjust the tempo track in places. If your tracks are in Musical mode they will follow tempo and time signature in play and also display OK. I would say that about 80 - 90% of the time your results will be acceptable but you might find that the other 10% can take some time to play and be legible at the same time. I have done it with pieces with odd times and tempo changes on a fairly complex piece and had results I was pleased with. I did have to just look at the score for a while before I worked out what it was I needed to do to get it looking like I thought I wanted and I had to work out some non-manual tricks to get some things right.
I have a thread in the lounge that mentions a product that you may be interested in which is a midi to score package that seems to work well from a Sound on Sound review at about $100 or so.
Also I’m not the best here for Score functions. The men you want are Vic France and Steveinchicago to get quickly to the bottom of things once you have found a good working routine although as you learn there may be some confusion as to what is being asked or what answer to give.